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This panel will convene library technology experts and industry leaders to take a critical look at the \"potential\" of AI and assess what it truly means for our profession. We'll discuss the many ethical issues, share practical strategies for library workers who question its use, and offer resources to ensure libraries continue to prioritize human knowledge, inquiry, and ethical considerations.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003ePartners \u0026amp; Co-Hosts\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMichael Blackwell, ReadersFirst\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMichael Blackwell is the Director of the St. Mary's County Library and leads ReadersFirst. As a prominent national advocate for e-resources, he is instrumental in coordinating efforts across nearly 300 libraries to campaign for fair pricing, sustainable licensing, and an easier patron experience for library e-book content.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJeremy Johannesen, Chief Officers of State Library Agencies (COSLA)\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJeremy Johannesen is the Executive Director of the Chief Officers of State Library Agencies (COSLA), an organization dedicated to supporting state library administrative agencies. He is a recognized advocate for nationwide library policy, leading COSLA's long-term efforts to influence publisher pricing and licensing models for e-books and digital content, ensuring equitable access and sustainable solutions for public libraries across the states.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003ePresenters\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMicah May, Lyrasis\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMicah May is the Director of Business Development for the Ebooks and Community Engagement (EBCE) division at Lyrasis, where he builds partnerships to support The Palace Project.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eWith over 15 years of experience, Micah is a leader in technology and library innovation. He previously served as Director of Ebooks at the Digital Public Library of America, where he spearheaded the Palace Marketplace and Palace Bookshelf. He also directed technology for Library for All, launching ebook apps in developing nations. As a Senior Director at the New York Public Library, he led strategy and innovation, conceiving and directing SimplyE, an open-source platform that simplifies ebook access. He also secured over $250 million in ebook donations from publishers to create Open Ebooks, an app-based library for children in low-income communities.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMicah holds a Juris Doctorate from Harvard Law School and a B.A. from the University of Colorado at Boulder. He began his career as a consultant at McKinsey \u0026amp; Company, where he helped create a new research and development group.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMarshall Breeding\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMarshall Breeding is an internationally recognized expert and independent consultant in library technology, best known as the creator and editor of Library Technology Guides (librarytechnology.org). He is the author of the annual \"Library Systems Report\" published in American Libraries, and he frequently presents on key topics, including the impact of AI and new technology enhancements on library systems, platforms, and services. He is solely responsible for all content on Library Technology Guides, making it an essential resource for professionals tracking developments and trends in library automation.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMichael Hanegan\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMichael Hanegan is a leading voice on AI and the Future of Learning and Work. He is the Founder of Intersections, a learning and human formation company, and is dedicated to building a world that is good for the whole human family. Michael serves as an adjunct professor and is the co-author of the influential book Generative AI and Libraries: Claiming Our Place in the Center of a Shared Future, published by the American Library Association. His work guides organizations across education, industry, and the library ecosystem in adopting human-centered approaches to technological transformation.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003ePeter Musser\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003ePeter Musser (he/him) is the Head of Library Services at the Institute for the Study of Knowledge Management in Education (ISKME), the organization behind OER Commons, the world’s leading digital public library for Open Educational Resources. Drawing on his deep experience in librarianship and a background in the U.S. Navy, Peter leads strategic initiatives focused on leadership, infrastructure, and the future of educational technology. 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He is the author of the annual \"Library Systems Report\" published in American Libraries, and he frequently presents on key topics, including the impact of AI and new technology enhancements on library systems, platforms, and services. He is solely responsible for all content on Library Technology Guides, making it an essential resource for professionals tracking developments and trends in library automation.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMichael Hanegan\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMichael Hanegan is a leading voice on AI and the Future of Learning and Work. He is the Founder of Intersections, a learning and human formation company, and is dedicated to building a world that is good for the whole human family. Michael serves as an adjunct professor and is the co-author of the influential book Generative AI and Libraries: Claiming Our Place in the Center of a Shared Future, published by the American Library Association. 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The next event, the title got a little truncated from what we intended, um, but it's going to be about how to get to sustainable pricing for library eBooks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=15.0,27.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A topic that is very near and dear to our hearts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=27.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I just dropped in chat a link to the full listing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=31.0,34.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, that link requires you to create a lyricist Learning login, that's the platform we're using.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=34.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you don't want to do that, you can use the second link, which just goes directly to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=40.0,45.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the Zoom registration, and you can register. Uh, without any other login information, or without creating an account.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=45.0,52.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, we'll mention this again at the end, but you can receive… if you're a librarian attending, you can receive continuing education credit for this session.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=52.0,61.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, simply complete the survey at the end. of the webinar, and you will receive that credit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=61.0,70.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael, Jeremy, anything else you want to mention before I dive into introducing our panelists?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=70.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Great. Well, thanks again to everyone for being here. I'd like to go ahead and get us started by introducing our fabulous panel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=76.0,83.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, first, uh, Peter. Peter Musser is the head of library services at ISCME.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=83.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For those who aren't familiar with ISCME, uh, it does a lot of work around open educational resources, but importantly runs the OER Commons.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=90.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"which is the biggest, I would say most important distributor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=97.0,101.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of open educational resources to schools and libraries across the country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=101.0,105.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Peter's also chair of the ALA Core AI and Machine Learning Library Interest Group, so I attended a couple of his sessions at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=105.0,114.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the ALA Core Forum, and he's clearly a leader in convening important conversations around how we will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=114.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"use and react to AI in libraries. Um, he advocates for ethical, humane approaches to generative AI in the library sector.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=120.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, Michael Hannigan is an editor, scholar, and co-author of Generative AI and Libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=130.0,137.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"claiming our place in the center of a shared future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=137.0,141.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, as an author of this important book that specifically dives into ethics and libraries, he's thought really deeply about how libraries can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=141.0,149.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"use AI and should work with AI. His work explores the intersection of technology and ethics to help libraries lead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=149.0,157.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With a human-centered approach in the age of intelligence.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=157.0,160.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And finally, martial breeding. Marshal breeding is an independent consultant and the creator of library technology guides.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=160.0,166.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Widely recognized as a leading expert on library automation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=166.0,170.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"resource management systems and global library technology industry. I would say Marshall is not only a leading consultant, he is kind of the library technology consultant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=170.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It has been for at least the two decades that I've been in library land, so if you haven't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=180.0,184.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"heard of Marshall, um, you should follow him and his work, which has been helping libraries make.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=184.0,191.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Important decisions about how to use technology for many decades.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=191.0,195.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so, very grateful to all of our panelists for being here today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=195.0,199.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"for this really important conversation, um… And I'd like to kick off, uh… by just asking each of our panelists, in turn, to say, in just a few sentences.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=199.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What you think is the most important ethical issue surrounding AI in libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=210.0,215.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and maybe we'll just go Marshall, Peter, Michael, since that's the order I see on my screen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=215.0,222.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I see the most important issue, uh, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=222.0,226.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AI, and generative AI, is kind of… Inevitable at this point, it's in the, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=226.0,235.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"mainstream of our life. So, for me, the most important issue is that, to the degree that libraries engage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=235.0,241.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this technology, it should be consistent. with the brand, and the… values of libraries, and that is centered around providing objective.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=241.0,252.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"verifiable information. And all that we do and offer to our community members.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=252.0,260.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, and that we kind of share those values, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=260.0,263.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with those community members so that they know to kind of be really careful and objective about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=263.0,269.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how they use these technologies. So, just in a few words, that's something that… Did I observe, I think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=269.0,276.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just before we go on, can I just ask, what do you see as the biggest tension.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=276.0,280.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"between those library values and how AI is being deployed, especially in libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=280.0,286.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you know, I know we'll talk about this a lot more, but it's the bias and misinformation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=286.0,294.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, which is direct… Exactly not consistent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=294.0,299.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With library brand and values. So, I see that, uh… you know, the tip-ins and lobsters come to us with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=299.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uh, questions about… how to do research and gather resources, and they're coming with, kind of, preliminary research.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=310.0,317.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, based on, uh. something they've gotten from AI that didn't exist, so I think that libraries, you know, deal with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=317.0,326.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anyway, uh, so… the libraries in the audience already know this, I'm not telling them anything new.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=326.0,333.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the part that I especially think about is, in what way are libraries incorporating AI into the services that they deliver?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=333.0,342.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, are there ways to. kind of… be really sure and careful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=342.0,349.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"About how it's used, uh… Is… are the right guardrails in place? 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And, uh, you know, libraries should really be careful about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=371.0,378.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How they deliver AI into their services. and not do it just because they can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=378.0,386.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I've seen, you know, a whole range of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=386.0,389.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"opinions and from libraries, everything from, we don't want any of this, you know, just kind of stay away from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=389.0,397.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"AI as much as you possibly can to others that just embrace it, and what can we do about this? What novel ways of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=397.0,404.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"providing information can we accomplish with? AI, generative AI, and this whole new toolbox.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=404.0,412.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of capabilities that are now available. They don't just do it because you can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=412.0,415.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's great, thanks. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me, and just so folks know, um, Marshall's, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=415.0,423.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"audio is cutting it out a little bit, he's in a power outage, has been for 24 hours, so he's using battery.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=423.0,429.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, and that might be contributing to reduced bandwidth, so that's why we had him go ahead and go off video.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=429.0,434.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Peter, you want to take a stab at what you think is the number one issue?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=434.0,435.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=435.0,438.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The little arbitrary to reduce it to 1, but just if you want to highlight one thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=438.0,439.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=439.0,443.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, um, it's tricky, right, because there are a ton of issues, and I think if we… look at, like, the broad picture, all of them are equally horrible, like, and some are existential. But, like, if we look at specifically libraries, I think Marshall's mostly, like, right on the money.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=443.0,456.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that a big challenge that libraries have in terms of ethics is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=456.0,460.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how are we using these tools? And how are we talking about how we're using these tools?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=460.0,467.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, in terms of how it might impact. like, information-seeking behavior, right? Like, and what people are perceiving as… truth, or accurate, uh, or accuracy, or, like… You know, are we using these tools in ways that, like, bolster the idea that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=467.0,486.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These machines might be infallible, or there are ways of making these machines infallible when there's not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=486.0,491.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, because if we are, I think that kind of undermines who we are as a profession and what our stated goals are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=491.0,498.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and I think that's a slippery road to go down. Like, not to say that, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=498.0,503.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"we have to reject it outright, and I don't think, like Marshall said, I don't think that's practical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=503.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but, like, we can do a better job. We can always do a better job of helping folks understand the technology and understand its limitations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=507.0,516.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, and make sure that when folks are engaging with it, uh, they're doing it with eyes wide open.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=516.0,520.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=520.0,522.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, that's great, that sounds very reminiscent of the role libraries have played for, like, for a long time in helping people understand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=522.0,528.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what they're seeing. Um, Michael, do you want to add to that? What do you think?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=528.0,532.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think, um, in my mind, the… The technology introduces really complex human questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=532.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, what does it mean… Uh, to be human in a world where, uh, thinking can be entirely outsourced in ways that have not been previously possible, or.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=540.0,552.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What does it look like to work with a technology that is no longer just information retrieval, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=552.0,557.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, actual, like, we're getting to see the emerging stages of, like, the creation of new information.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=557.0,563.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right? Like, we're seeing novel contributions to other spaces. I think most importantly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=563.0,568.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In my mind, uh, it is that the ethics of libraries and librarians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=568.0,574.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, are things that not only, of course, should be held true in libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=574.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that need to be increasingly instilled in larger society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=578.0,582.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that's where I think the real, like, work to be done is. How do we help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=582.0,586.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kind of the things that are so fundamental to library world, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=586.0,589.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Whether this is, like, information literacy, or… Concerns about equity and accuracy. How do we… move those into a society that has increasingly not really been bothered by those things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=589.0,602.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the urgency and the consequences of not getting that right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=602.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the short term are profound. And so, I'm less worried about the world-changing libraries, I'm more worried about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=606.0,614.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How do I get libraries to help make the world more… more like them?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=614.0,618.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, in the present moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=618.0,620.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That… I like that, I want to hear more about that. I think that would be really good for everyone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=620.0,624.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, just as we dig in here, I want to make one more note that I should have mentioned at the beginning to all of our attendees.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=624.0,632.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, we will be using the Q\u0026A box. It's just… you should see it in your menu.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=632.0,636.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, as you have questions, please log them there. You're welcome to put comments or other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=636.0,642.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Side notes in the chat, but for actual questions, put them there. Michael Blackwell will be monitoring those.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=642.0,648.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we're going to try to leave 15 minutes at least at the end to come to some of your questions, so please do use that Q\u0026A box.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=648.0,654.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so that's great. I think that gives us a nice introduction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=654.0,657.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Marshall, since you mentioned bias and misinformation first, I'm going to send this to you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=657.0,663.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And just ask, uh, you know, what are some of the ways that you see algorithmic bias in AI.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=663.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"manifesting in a library setting specifically. Um, can you share either a few examples or just some illustrations of how you think that issue.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=670.0,678.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"comes out in library land.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=678.0,682.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I'm not sure a lot of real specific examples, but in general terms, the bias that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=682.0,689.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, can come in a lot of different flavors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=689.0,693.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Political, of course, but then… Uh, cultural. I think a lot of the models have been trained on a predominantly English.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=693.0,705.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"American, European data set. So, I think it's hard to make sure that a lot of different perspectives.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=705.0,713.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"uh, point of view, and actual data and information are available.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=713.0,719.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When an individual asks a. a question into a… to a prompt.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=719.0,724.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, again, it's like the Wild West. You don't know what you're going to get back, and… and it's certainly going to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=724.0,731.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"omissions in it, as well as interesting information. So, what are the emissions, I think, is the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=731.0,738.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is, you know, an important part of. Of the consideration.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=738.0,745.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And are there ways that library services based on those can work around those biases?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=745.0,746.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That makes a lot of sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=746.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm a little skeptical, actually. So, yeah, I think it's a difficult, difficult problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=751.0,753.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hmm. How about you, Peter? I know you've been working a lot as your chair of this AI interest group for ALA with librarians to think about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=753.0,765.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, how they can… influence the way AI is deployed in their institutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=765.0,772.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, you know, are there things that you see the libraries can do about that problem?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=772.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're librarians as individuals. Perhaps…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=779.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah… yeah, I think…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=780.0,786.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. It comes down to education, I think, in a lot of situations, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=786.0,791.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"before libraries and librarians can really, you know, address the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=791.0,796.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"algorithmic biases, for example, that show up in these. Like, they gotta themselves learn about it, um, and there are various resources out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=796.0,804.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I will show some resources on OER Commons later if people are curious, because we built a hub all about AI and OER, and the intersection for that, um, this past year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=804.0,814.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, uh, yeah, I think libraries and librarians and library workers broadly have to understand that, because, you know, also, it's worth mentioning that these days, not just librarians at the reference desk are answering questions, it's… clerks, it's, uh, admin folks, it's all these different folks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=814.0,829.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so, learn yourself, uh, and then once you have that, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=829.0,835.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, helping the folks in your community that you're serving to also understand that, like, these biases exist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=835.0,841.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And any… anything that you get, uh, from a large language model.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=841.0,846.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You should take with a grain of salt, uh, because… you, unless you are the person who trained it, even if you are the person who trained it, you might not really know what that bias is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=846.0,856.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, really easy example. So, for example, um, DeepSeq. Everyone has heard of DeepSeak, I think, at this point, um, who has.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=856.0,863.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, somewhat ingrained in the LLM world, it's, like, the first big model that came out and was seen as, like, a competitor to ChatGPT, and it came from China.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=863.0,873.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, I want to say from… Baidu? I don't remember which one exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=873.0,881.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, which company, because there's a bunch of companies over there working on it. Um, and it was… I mean, famous because, like, it was cheaper, to make, uh, it seemed to be operating just as well, it seemed to be hitting all the benchmarks equally well, but, like, folks don't understand that, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=881.0,895.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Every model that's made in the People's Republic of China, and that's trained there is also subject to the laws of the People's Republic of China. And so, if you ask DeepSeq anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=895.0,905.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about, for example, the Tiananmen Square massacre, like, it's gonna… it's gonna give you the party line of, oh, well, actually, it's disputed what happened there. And if you try and interrogate it more, it will say, well, I'm sorry, but, you know, according to the laws of where I'm operating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=905.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I can't actually give you. more information beyond what I've said.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=920.0,924.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, uh, but, like, you… even to get to that, you really have to pry, and I think most people don't have that awareness. And I'm using… Deep Seek is, like, a very obvious example, but it's the same for all models. Like, all models are going to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=924.0,939.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bias based on whatever they were trained on, but also whatever laws they were trained on. Um, other easy example would be Grok.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=939.0,945.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Groc is a hot mess. And I don't want to go into it, and you shouldn't either. But, like, yeah, just having the awareness that these.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=945.0,954.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Answers, these machines have to be interrogated for almost everything they say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=954.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That makes a lot of sense, and that's… I mean, it's… interesting, and it, you know, the suggestion, which I appreciate is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=960.0,965.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, we kind of have to lean in to have any positive influence on that, because you really have to know what's going on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=965.0,971.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michael, I feel like your book is directly on point to this question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=971.0,974.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and I like the… Uh, you know, the provocation that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=974.0,978.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's not just about, hey, how AI influences libraries, but the libraries potentially can play a role.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=978.0,985.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in influencing broader society. Uh, because of the professional expertise with information literacy, in some ways.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=985.0,992.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, librarians have been doing a version of this for a long, long time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=992.0,995.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, can you say more about, you know, that vision and how you think librarians can apply.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=995.0,1001.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, their ethics and skills to help us navigate this better.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1001.0,1005.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I think there's two things. One, well, at least two things. One, libraries are not starting from zero.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1005.0,1011.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, we are not… this is not the first time we've had information where we have to suss out bias.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1011.0,1017.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, this is true of our physical and digital collections, too, right? Like, just because the library.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1017.0,1023.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"provides access to this information doesn't mean that it's, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1023.0,1026.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"all where it needs to be. Um, so I think part of this is that we've already built these capacities in some ways, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1026.0,1034.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now we need to figure out how to both.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1034.0,1037.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"adjust to new realities about complexity and scale of those questions, and then.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1037.0,1043.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How then to begin to disseminate and kind of scale out that capacity building that's… that's already pretty robust.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1043.0,1049.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"within libraries. I think the second piece, though, is that, um… In my mind, the challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1049.0,1059.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"about bias, particularly in libraries, is this. Um… The fundamental skills that are required.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1059.0,1071.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To understand where bias is. How we identify it, and how we respond.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1071.0,1076.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are, in my mind, technologically agnostic. Like, this can be true for a book, or this can be true for a large language model, or this can be true for a conversation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1076.0,1084.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, with one of us across the table from the other person, right? That, um… the… the solve here is not… just how do we deal with bias in AI, which, by the way, from a technical perspective, we've made huge progress in the last couple years.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1084.0,1098.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but… the… it's these more difficult kind of intimate human capacity-building questions that I think are really important for libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1098.0,1108.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The other piece I'll say here is that. Um… in my experience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1108.0,1115.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The challenge that AI presents. is not only that there is, like, potentially bias baked into the tool itself.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1115.0,1123.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But the specific way you use it produces such drastically different results.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1123.0,1129.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, so my colleague and I, Chris Rosser, when we go to… look, we went to ACRL this year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1129.0,1134.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Chris, in his presentation, had a prompt. that was meant to elicit bias and a hallucination. It was designed to ask about an event that did not happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1134.0,1144.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right? And I and the person sitting next to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1144.0,1147.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Both used ChatGPT. He chose a different model.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1147.0,1152.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I chose a… I chose a separate model. from ChatGPT of the selections.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1152.0,1156.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He did not enable web browsing. I did. He got an answer that said, that riot was wild, you wouldn't believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1156.0,1163.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the good guys were actually the bad guys, and I got one that said, this event didn't happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1163.0,1168.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if it did happen, it'd be present here, here, and here, and I looked, and if you want to go look too, you'll see it's not there. 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You know, we've been working as a library industry on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1190.0,1196.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"technology, literacy, information literacy for a long time. Are there any examples that you have seen, or if not, any sort of vision that you and your co-authors share for how libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1196.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because, I mean, it could do that, because it's a… it's a big charge, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1209.0,1212.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"human capacity building to get. you know, a greater percentage of the population to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1212.0,1218.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, recognize and appropriately deal with. Bias at that level.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1218.0,1224.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1224.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's a tall order, right? I mean, we've, you know, we've been working on just getting people to recognize misinformation and, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1225.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think contributed, but it's a hard… it's a big task.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1230.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What do you think, kind of practically, librarians might start exploring that could help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1234.0,1241.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So I think there are two realms, uh, where libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1241.0,1242.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pushing in that direction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1242.0,1244.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Can especially make impact quickly here. First, when we think about academic libraries, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1244.0,1250.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We think about libraries embedded in. universities, in schools, and other places, right? I'm kind of lumping school and academic libraries here together in this way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1250.0,1259.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but it is to say that they need to essentially.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1259.0,1263.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"make themselves a seat at the table. around policy, around training, around literacy development, around, you know, human capacity building.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1263.0,1271.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I mean, I know of a number of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1271.0,1273.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of prestigious R1 institutions. who wants the library finally got a seat at the table, which they weren't originally invited, right? 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Like, these are the… the fundamental, kind of, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1304.0,1310.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"information and research navigation questions that libraries should always be at the center of those questions, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1310.0,1318.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but they're typically not really included, usually at a high level in those spaces, or they're kind of, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1318.0,1324.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Libraries are largely seen as… capable and helpful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1324.0,1329.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, uh, only when called upon. And part of the claim of our book is that libraries have to learn how to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1329.0,1332.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1332.0,1336.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, assertive. You know, I always joke, as a non-librarian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1336.0,1339.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I always wish that librarians for a year. Would wear on their name tag, uh, information scientist, parentheses librarian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1339.0,1347.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, just to kind of help people understand, like, I'm not just a nice person who likes books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1347.0,1351.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right? Like, I understand at a deep level these deeper questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1351.0,1355.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, in those spaces, they have to be more assertive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1355.0,1358.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In public libraries. Libraries are one of the few public institutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1358.0,1363.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who still, uh, whose credibility has not cratered. Right? Government, education, like, all these are, like, in, you know, in the 20-30% polling nationally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1363.0,1373.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"80-85% for public libraries. Like, that should be leveraged to the hilt, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1373.0,1376.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1376.0,1379.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To say, um, I don't trust. Uh, my city government to come out and tell me about misinformation, but if my public library comes in and says, hey, the election cycle's heating up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1379.0,1390.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Let's talk about some stuff. Hey, we need to talk about how.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1390.0,1394.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Generative AI is used for voice. and video, and targeted information gathering.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1394.0,1399.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, to protect senior citizens who typically get, you know, scammed by kind of these.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1399.0,1406.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not very sophisticated ones, now that these sophisticated things are coming.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1406.0,1408.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, I think this is where we should really be using.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1408.0,1412.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that institutional trust that's still in place. You know, one example I always give is this. In my parents' house.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1412.0,1418.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a post-it note with a question that says, if I ever ask for money, this is the question you ask.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1418.0,1423.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this is the answer I will give. And it's not a question I've ever asked before.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1423.0,1428.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, because I clone my own voice for projects where I don't have time to audio narrate a paper I wrote.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1428.0,1429.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hmm. Right, that's a great…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1429.0,1433.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I can't tell the difference. Right, so I don't expect that somebody on the phone.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1433.0,1437.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when it feels like it's under duress, can also tell the difference, right? So… Part of this is just paying attention to where libraries already have strength.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1437.0,1443.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then figuring out how to leverage that in spaces where we typically haven't asserted ourselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1443.0,1448.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I like that. Those are both, I think, really practical, leveraging that public trust, and… making sure, as a starting point, the libraries are at the table when.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1448.0,1456.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the institutions they're part of are making these decisions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1456.0,1460.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm sure we'll come back to this, but I'd like to move on to another one of the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1460.0,1464.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, top kind of concerns, I think that people have about AI, which is the environmental impacts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1464.0,1469.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, I try to be conscientious about my carbon footprint and the environment, and I worry about this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1469.0,1475.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and so I, you know, following our conversation, uh, yesterday, we were doing a prep call for this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1475.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I shared that I've started having. you know, some real guilt if I run frivolous AI inquiries about, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1481.0,1487.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where's the best place for me to go to dinner? Or just informing a political conversation I'm having with a friend.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1487.0,1492.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and so I, uh… generated this, which puts a little bit in context.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1492.0,1500.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how much energy AI actually. individual AI queries actually use. And I'm sure there's more to this story, because this makes it look like, hey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1500.0,1510.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's not really all that bad. You know, running a text-based query is really only using the same amount as a few minutes of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1510.0,1517.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"an LED light bulb, that doesn't sound so bad. It sounds like I can keep asking AI.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1517.0,1521.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, to pick me the best restaurant that meet my criteria when I'm visiting a new city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1521.0,1525.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but I also understand there's probably a lot more to this story, so I'd actually like to loop back to Marshall first and see, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1525.0,1532.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What am I missing here, uh, that this is not representing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1532.0,1537.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, should we still be concerned about the environmental impacts of AI, or does this pretty much say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1537.0,1542.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"eh, no big deal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1542.0,1545.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we gotta be… Concerned about the environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1545.0,1551.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"impacts of everything. Oh, AI, certainly, uh, fair game.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1551.0,1558.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Not to be concerned about. But when you look at… computing that are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1558.0,1565.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They're consumed and. building large language models, the other components… That, you know, the learning that takes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1565.0,1577.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Place after you, you know, tokenize massive amounts of information is huge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1577.0,1583.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh. asking, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1583.0,1588.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a query, you know. Oh, it's just, you know, a few toes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1588.0,1593.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then building the large. Language model maybe needs to be factored in. Uh, keep in mind that libraries and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1593.0,1602.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And consumers are going to have no bearing on whether that happens or not, because this is part of the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1602.0,1608.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"business model of the AI. companies. The other piece.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1608.0,1616.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is the, um… Amount of… Internet traffic that now consists of the, you know, these bots that are gathering information.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1616.0,1628.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Looking at my own website, uh, you know, I'm using to generate textual images, uh, textual, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1628.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And maybe 10 times, maybe 100 times more bot traffic that seems to be related to generative AI.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1636.0,1642.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you know, that overhead certainly has an impact on the overall… And the other thing is that, you know, this is the way of the world when it comes to computing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1642.0,1651.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, another point of comparison is crypto mining. You know, these are massive, dirty data centers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1651.0,1658.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That are put in, you know, unfortunate. places where they impact.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1658.0,1663.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, uh, you know. poorer populations, minorities, and so forth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1663.0,1672.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, you hear a lot of, kind of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1672.0,1675.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Really bad stories about… our crypto… Uh, is doing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1675.0,1686.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's, uh, infrastructure. And that applies… Bye to Sam aspect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1686.0,1693.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of generative… of AI, too. Some are very plain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1693.0,1700.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Some are very, very dirty, so I think those are… you know, part of the overall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1700.0,1708.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"thinking about, you know, what is the impact of computing on the environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1708.0,1714.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then a, uh. High and generative AI is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1714.0,1719.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To know the component. of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1719.0,1723.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That makes sense. I don't know, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1723.0,1724.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and long-winded. answer, sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1724.0,1729.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, that's okay, it's a good answer. Unfortunately, your video… your audio isn't perfect, I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1729.0,1734.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"not having power is probably impacting that. But I think we caught most of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1734.0,1740.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we'll try to… I mean, I think that's super interesting to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1740.0,1744.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I have a little bit of a hard time connecting crypto mining, which is not something I do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1744.0,1749.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to my own personal, sort of, ethical use or non-use of AI.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1749.0,1753.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, Michael, do you want to go next and just weigh in on this environmental question and how significant is?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1753.0,1759.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how we have six libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1759.0,1760.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I mean, I think part of the… Part of the challenge is that not all players are the same, right? So to extrapolate to the industry is really complicated, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1760.0,1766.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/288","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll just give you two examples. Well, uh, two examples about current, and then one about, like, a coming data center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1766.0,1772.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, in Memphis, Elon Musk has a data center for X, which is notorious.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1772.0,1778.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, it is, uh… It is… it is poisoning the place where it lives, and he just pays the fines, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1778.0,1785.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then, when there is regulation, he's pulling the non-compliant parts across the border to the other side and wiring it back to the data. Like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1785.0,1792.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There is no… there is no ethics in play at all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1792.0,1796.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is just, uh, you know, a really bank… morally bankrupt… Uh, but, you know, 2 hours from my house, uh… We have a data center that's been here since 2008, one that is being retrofitted to be an AI data center.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1796.0,1812.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, they've had, uh… no environmental problems.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1812.0,1817.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in the last 17 years. They have the best funded schools in the state.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1817.0,1823.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, you know, like, they're… not all players are the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1823.0,1826.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, when we think about, like, um, Google and Microsoft, typically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1826.0,1831.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are more transparent and more kind of proactive about these pieces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1831.0,1835.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Microsoft's latest sustainability report shows that when they put in a data center, they find ways to contribute more water than they draw.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1835.0,1843.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, they're net positive in every data center. And in fact, they now have data centers that the only water they use are for the coffee pot and the toilets.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1843.0,1849.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, they don't actually use water for the chips themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1849.0,1853.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/302","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so I think part of it is that not everybody's the same. 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They would still only use.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1889.0,1894.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/310","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"25% of their daily water combined, the data center and the city.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1894.0,1898.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/311","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In that city, it's going to be great. To have that there. It's going to be an economic, you know, injection in a meaningful way, it's going to be transformative for their schools, for their municipality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1898.0,1908.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/312","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, and… and the environment will be. Uh, just fine. 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Uh, the people who don't care about those things just say, oh, look at the curmudgeons over there, and… And what we're saying, which is valid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=1976.0,1987.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Gets ignored, and I don't want to play into that agenda. 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Uh, is there an efficient way to know that and direct your use towards the ones that are being more responsible?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2007.0,2017.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, generally, there are… there are companies as a whole that are more responsible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2017.0,2022.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You're saying Microsoft and Google are pretty good, so I keep using…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2022.0,2023.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I think the other piece is that. 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I want you to talk to me about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2043.0,2047.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, this is… this data center is going to make them a lot of money, I want you to tell me how this is going to fund.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2047.0,2053.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"schools and libraries and infrastructure and like. So I think part of this is that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2053.0,2057.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We need to be asking those questions. Um, and my hunch is that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2057.0,2062.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"While there are players that are certainly better than others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2062.0,2066.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think that exempts anyone from significant scrutiny.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2066.0,2071.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/342","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in every given situation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2071.0,2073.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/343","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That makes a lot of sense. Um, Peter, I'd like to ask you to try to bring this conversation kind of background to libraries and librarians a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2073.0,2080.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/344","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2080.0,2081.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/345","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and, you know, you've been, again, convening these conversations like I saw at Core Forum.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2081.0,2086.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/346","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, how do you think. the environmental concerns should enter into the conversation within libraries, you know, what can libraries do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2086.0,2095.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/347","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, if anything, to push their institutions to be more conscientious around that particular.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2095.0,2101.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/348","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"element of the ethical concerns around AI.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2101.0,2104.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/349","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, uh, so, um, Michael and Marshall, I think, both touched on this, like, yeah, libraries… and someone in the chat has asked a question, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2104.0,2113.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How do we do this when we're already under-resourced? It's true, we are. Um, I have a 3-year-old at home, and so I've been watching a lot of kids' movies, and I promise this relates, but I was just watching.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2113.0,2122.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For the seventh time this week, A Bug's Life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2122.0,2125.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and for those of you unfamiliar with the premise, there's these ants that have basically been put into servitude by grasshoppers, and the grasshoppers force the ants to harvest all of these grains for them, and then the grasshoppers come in and they eat all the grains.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2125.0,2137.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and at the… like, at the very end of the movie, like, the aunt, the, like, smart, creative one, is like, wait a second!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2137.0,2148.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You're coming here bullying us and taking all our food.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2148.0,2151.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, you know, there's hundreds of us, and there's, like, 6 of you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2151.0,2156.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And you know that if we ever figured that out, we would be able to stand up. I kind of think it's the same way, like, I think it's really hard to do that, maybe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2156.0,2166.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"individually, but, like, library directors? You know, you've got… you've got the ears of your boards, uh, library consortia, like ALA and PLA, and all of ALA's divisions, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2166.0,2178.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We are ostensibly, the group voices of our organizations, and so, like, if.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2178.0,2183.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We come out and say, hey, uh, here are the standards of acceptable environmental issues.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2183.0,2190.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how are you going to prove this to us?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2190.0,2192.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to vendors that interact with us, or to the folks that are making these tools, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2192.0,2195.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's… I know there's… it's been such a long time since I saw the SaaS, but there's, like, over 30,000 just public libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2195.0,2202.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/363","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's not looking at universities, that's not looking at school libraries, but, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2202.0,2206.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's a ton of folks out there, um, in the Library Caucus, and I don't know that we… have really taken advantage of that, and like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2206.0,2215.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So there's that side, um, and then more practically… yeah, okay, yeah, so it was right, there are more than 30,000.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2215.0,2222.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, libraries in the US. Thanks, George. There's 125,000.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2222.0,2225.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so there's that advocacy side, practically. Um, like… we can just… like, we don't have to get the ALA to ask.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2225.0,2236.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This task before we start asking vendors as they're rolling out new features.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2236.0,2241.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, like, if that's ProQuest embedding, or not ProQuest, but, um… who owns ProQuest and everything else, all of the other big ones, like, they're starting to roll out. Yeah, exactly. Claribate, thank you, Marshall. Like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2241.0,2252.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clearavate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2252.0,2255.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Clarivate is just putting these in. Um, and we are just kind of rolling with it, but we don't have to, and there's no risk in us asking, and there would certainly, I think, be no risk in the ALA asking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2255.0,2267.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, there's this weird kind of potential conflict of interest, because Clarivate and a lot of other vendors end up funding, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2267.0,2272.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ALA's annual meeting, but we can ask, and I think we should, um, we can also just use tools less.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2272.0,2281.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, like, at the end of the day, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2281.0,2284.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you want to reduce your environmental impact of your AI usage, use it less.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2284.0,2290.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I know there's a lot of pressure to, like, write the perfect email, especially when you have so many, or, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2290.0,2295.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just read that AI-generated summary of your email to get caught up, but, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2295.0,2300.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it won't take a ton of time to just read it, um, and you don't have to be perfectly nice in every email use. I'm certainly not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2300.0,2307.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and, like… it's easy just to be like, hey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2307.0,2312.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks. You know, write like you're a college professor, right?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2312.0,2315.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, you're getting the message across, and it might be Kurt, but it saves you that little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2315.0,2320.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, yeah, so those are some of the things I've been thinking about for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2320.0,2326.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Marshall, sounds like you think your audio might have gotten better, and I know you've been working in this space for a long, long time, and probably have some thoughts on how.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2326.0,2334.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, how librarians can particularly. within their institutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2334.0,2339.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"advocate for more responsible practices around this? What are your thoughts on that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2339.0,2347.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/386","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, it's hard to be too optimistic that libraries are going to be able to convince an institution to do something differently than they want to do it, but you can make.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2347.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/387","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you can chip away at it. I think it is important for libraries to kind of be the adult in the room sometimes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2355.0,2364.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm when it comes to advising. administrators, hardest ones to convince, faculty interested in kind of doing the best they can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2364.0,2373.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"With information and information methodologies and research methodologies. and students who come in with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2373.0,2381.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, thinking that they're very sophisticated in the way that they do information seeking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2381.0,2386.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, you know, are really kind of naive as well, as far as how.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2386.0,2391.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they're consuming AI services. So, yeah, clearly… Libraries have a role in, kind of, promoting a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2391.0,2403.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"use this word, uh, trip and dead. With fear and trepidation better, because who's to say what's better or not?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2403.0,2410.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, you know, than they would otherwise. Uh, but it's… it's very hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2410.0,2416.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, to actually do that at a scale that can.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2416.0,2422.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"maybe tip the scales toward, you know, better outcomes, both in, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2422.0,2427.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Academic institutions, schools, and the general population. You know, it's just overwhelming how prevalent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2427.0,2434.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These technologies have become. I was, uh, sitting with some folks the other day, and someone who I didn't think was, you know, real computer-oriented, a question came up in the conversation, and she said, let's ask ChatGPT.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2434.0,2450.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, you know, I think that's the thinking of the… of the… you know, larger part of, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2450.0,2457.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"society now. So, you know, that becomes a pretty insurmountable challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2457.0,2463.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I think libraries can make progress at, kind of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2463.0,2468.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Helping, uh, the information ecosystem in a positive way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2468.0,2472.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm not sure if that answers your question or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2472.0,2473.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, I think it does, I think it's right that it's gonna be, you know, it's gonna be incremental. We're not gonna change.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2473.0,2479.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, the overall trajectory, but we might influence it for the better, and I guess I'm… I'm struggling not to spend my time picturing, you know, Peter's t-shirt with librarians as Bugs Life ants, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2479.0,2490.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Pushing hoppers, I love it. I think that's gonna have to be our t-shirt for this, and I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2490.0,2495.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, as Michael was explicating, there is information out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2495.0,2499.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, not all AI engines or, you know, tools are created equal, and we can get at least some information about which are better than others.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2499.0,2507.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, and be more responsible consumers, especially as institutional consumers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2507.0,2511.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, that could move the needle if they thought the market was paying attention, and who better to suss out who were the better players and drive more responsible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2511.0,2520.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"consumer decisions than librarians, so I really like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2520.0,2524.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'd like to… yeah, go ahead, Marshall.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2524.0,2525.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm. Yep. Oh, uh, I thought came to mind is that, you know, it also depends on who the institutional partners are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2525.0,2533.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, so some universities have, you know, deals with Amazon for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2533.0,2538.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Infrastructure, including AI, others have partnerships with Google, uh… and certainly a lot have with Microsoft, so a lot of that is driven by outside.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2538.0,2549.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"economic forces. That worries me a bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2549.0,2553.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, that makes sense. So, um, I'd like to pass the mic a little bit to Michael Blackwell to help us go through some of the excellent questions we have in the Q\u0026A.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2553.0,2562.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, and send those to our panelists. I think we have…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2562.0,2564.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hi everybody, uh, the first question was, what is the title of your book, Michael? And I did put a link to that in the chat.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2564.0,2572.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I get nothing from sales of this book. I do recommend it most heartily. Congratulations on an excellent, excellent book on this topic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2572.0,2581.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thanks so much. I also rarely get anything from it, but I'm really glad that it's out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2581.0,2582.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, very quick anec…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2582.0,2586.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Need to talk to the publishers about that. Very quick anecdote that Kirk off our first question. My wife works in a law firm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2586.0,2593.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A client of theirs was dissatisfied with the service that I'm going to sue you, created a very impressive legal brief with lots of references to Maryland law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2593.0,2602.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it turns it was created by generative AI. It turns out not a single reference was real. It was all rick-rolled.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2602.0,2609.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, quick warning to all librarians, remember that first rule of reference, verify your sources.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2609.0,2616.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in terms of giving ethical service. And that gets us to our first question, which I'll open to all the panel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2616.0,2621.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"An anonymous attendee, thank you for your question. Are libraries exploring an AI chatbot to answer certain types of chat reference questions?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2621.0,2630.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'm wondering what the potential ethical pitfalls of such a rollout are. They're built on our live guides and web pages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2630.0,2638.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thoughts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2638.0,2639.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I would love to jump in on that. Just real quick, because this is something I meant to mention earlier. So, okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2639.0,2644.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, one of the things in this question that's mentioned is they're built on our lab guides and web pages.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2644.0,2650.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, the idea that chatbots or LLMs. They can be made potentially more accurate by pointing them towards sources.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2650.0,2659.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but it's a bit of a… It's not true that that's going to make them… accurate. Uh, it doesn't prevent hallucinations that might make them less likely, but they will still happen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2659.0,2670.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, because at the end of the day, like, it's still just kind of… And it's kind of hard to explain, but like… the way large language models operate is it's still just kind of…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2670.0,2682.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"predictive number generating, and there's a little bit of cleverness going on in the background, but, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2682.0,2688.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I don't know how to put this exactly. It's not going to prevent hallucinations, it will give.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2688.0,2692.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"potential sources, but it's not going to be a cure-all, just to… I want to make sure that that's clear. Um, and then another kind of ethical thing with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2692.0,2701.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um… is… Are you checking the answers that it's giving? Uh, so… as the co-chair of AI Machine Learning and Libraries, back when I first came into this role, I was invited to guest edit a special edition of Information Technology and Libraries Journal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2701.0,2722.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, which came out… I always forget if it's… Early 2024 or late 2024. Um, but one of the articles in there, and I would point you all to find it, and if someone could find the reference, good luck.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2722.0,2733.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, one of the things in there was a case study that I want to say University of Michigan had done as they were first trying out, uh, designing a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2733.0,2743.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chatbot for use in their libraries. And they covered a ton of the challenges with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2743.0,2747.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but they also provided, like, they showed their work, which was really great. Um, and one of the things that stuck out to me was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2747.0,2754.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As they were rolling out in the pilot process, they were collecting the answers the chatbot was giving, and then they would audit it, and then they would use that to try and train to provide better answers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2754.0,2764.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so if you're not doing that, then, of course, you don't really have eyes on what the chatbot is asking, and maybe that can feel, like, a little like, oh, but, you know, what about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2764.0,2773.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"patron privacy. Well, patron privacy is important, but also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2773.0,2778.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So is quality, um, answers and verifiability, um… So, that's my 7 cents for inflation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2778.0,2788.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I'll jump in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2788.0,2789.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, I just saw a question pop up in the chat. Please ask your questions, if you would, in the Q\u0026A answer, and if we don't have time to get to them all today, we're going to try to follow up with answers to those.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2789.0,2800.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I'm sorry, Michael, I'll interrupt you. Please go ahead.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2800.0,2803.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I was just gonna say two things. One, um, my first question would be, what's the ROI on that? How do I get to do something more meaningful that I do care about in library services?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2803.0,2812.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If I create that, if the answer is not much, I probably wouldn't do it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2812.0,2816.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the second piece is, like, uh, whatever you do build with an AI tool, please hire an army of 7th graders who are mischievous to try and break it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2816.0,2824.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then whatever you get from there, if you're comfortable with that, then proceed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2824.0,2828.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/455","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, you know, I think, uh… chatbots are an interesting interface, and you can do really incredible things with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2828.0,2835.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/456","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but when they're used in edge cases or ways that they're not designed, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2835.0,2841.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/457","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You can get some things that are either unpleasant or at least not what you'd hoped for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2841.0,2846.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/458","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so I try to… I try to find mischievous people to red team all of my… all of my applications. And I find that middle school boys are very, very good at those kinds of things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2846.0,2855.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/459","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think it's important to think about, you know, what the chat box is addressing. Is it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2855.0,2861.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/460","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"addressing questions like, when does the library open, and, you know, where can I find a printer where computers are available?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2861.0,2868.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/461","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And even at that level. that's kind of hard to do based on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2868.0,2873.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/462","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, information that's available within the library's kind of private, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2873.0,2879.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/463","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"information repositories, but they're even. The impossible part is when, uh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2879.0,2884.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/464","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"users start to ask research questions that require kind of a lot more.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2884.0,2890.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/465","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, you know, a lot more processing of that question to know how to give back an answer. And users don't know the scope of what it can do and not do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2890.0,2900.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/466","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I've seen kind of a lot of really poorly executed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2900.0,2904.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/467","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chatbots, uh, that I think are hard. not consistent with what libraries really want to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2904.0,2912.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/468","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, Marshall. Uh, Emily just put a link in the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2912.0,2913.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/469","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2913.0,2916.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/470","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"chat to how and why the University of Michigan build its own closed generative AI tools that might be worth a look.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2916.0,2923.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/471","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our next question, actually, next two questions have to do with the use of resources slide, and I don't know if you want to put that back up or not.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2923.0,2931.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/472","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, the first one from another anonymous attendee, the energy use of a single AI query is great, but do we have any idea how many queries are being made.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2931.0,2940.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/473","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by library campus institutions, etc, and you mentioned earlier the number, Marshall the number of hits that are coming just from bots themselves.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2940.0,2950.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/474","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And in a related question. Will there be a discussion of training with building and building of data centers involved with this graphic being shown?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2950.0,2958.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/475","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Otherwise, the graphic seems a little misleading.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2958.0,2972.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/476","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There's the graphic, which I recognize… I knew was not the whole story, and I think could be misleading, so I think part of the invitation was to debunk it a little bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2972.0,2983.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/477","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And just a quick AI query says that academic institutions are generating somewhere around 2 billion AI queries a week, so… If you multiply that by the, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2983.0,2993.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/478","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"half of a watt-hour, it's a lot of power.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2993.0,2998.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/479","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, just a library point, uh, and we were discussing this right before, uh, it's worth mentioning also that graphic was generated, uh, with Gemini.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=2998.0,3006.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/480","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3006.0,3007.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/481","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is itself an AI tool. Um… the… and then… Derek, the question about whether or not there was discussion that did get covered, and you caught it in the chat, I saw that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3007.0,3018.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/482","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"One point I would make about. The graphic, though, is even if the numbers are right, or even if they're wrong.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3018.0,3026.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/483","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, Michael brought up a great point before we started of, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3026.0,3031.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/484","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that paradox whose name escapes me. I like the more efficient something becomes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3031.0,3035.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/485","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, the more people use it, and it's… it makes it really hard to figure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3035.0,3037.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Jevon's Paradox.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3037.0,3039.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, so that makes it really hard to figure out what the gains or losses actually are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3039.0,3044.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, in terms of energy use. Um, and we've seen that with light bulbs, for example, and we've seen that with dryers and things like that. Um, it's still perfectly acceptable to dry your clothes by just leaving them out, but… energy is cheap, uh, now, and it's a lot easier to get an ENERGY STAR compliant.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3044.0,3058.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/489","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"washer-dryer set, and uh… just run that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3058.0,3063.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/490","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And Michael just put a link in the chat that will have some helpful information to answer this question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3063.0,3069.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, thank you both for those questions. Jake, you've answered a very interesting question in the chat. If you could move that over to Q\u0026A, we may not have time to get to it today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3069.0,3078.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I'd like to answer it as a follow-up, because I think our panelists would have very provocative things to say about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3078.0,3083.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/493","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Our next Q\u0026A question comes from Caleb. Question from Marshall, if any of the panelists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3083.0,3090.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/494","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, no, I take that back. Sorry, Miranda, your next question. Two-part questions. What are some actionable steps that we can take.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3090.0,3097.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/495","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in public libraries to leverage our position as trusted public institutions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3097.0,3102.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/496","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And two, how can we build capacity to take leadership positions on AI issues when so many librarians are under-resourced?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3102.0,3112.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/497","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, I'm not sure why the question is… first directed at me. Did you say Michael or me?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3112.0,3117.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/498","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, no, I'm sorry, that was the next question. Um, I skipped one, so this one's not specifically aimed at you, it's for the panel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3117.0,3125.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/499","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, Marshall. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3125.0,3126.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/500","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay. I think others probably have a… closer perspective than me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3126.0,3128.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/501","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I… I think here's what I would say. I think the first thing is that libraries need to upskill quickly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3128.0,3133.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/502","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right? This is where, uh, getting to understand where your expertise already overlaps with the questions and concerns that we have about generative AI.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3133.0,3142.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/503","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then the other piece is to go make your case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3142.0,3144.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/504","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, you should be, uh, you know, talking to your legislators, to your governor, to the task force that run around thinking about things like education and workforce development.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3144.0,3156.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/505","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"About… about how libraries have real meaningful expertise to bring to the table.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3156.0,3160.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/506","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right? If you're talking about the future of. Skill building, if you're talking about the future of information, if you're talking about the future of education, it is insane.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3160.0,3168.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/507","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That we would not have libraries, not at the head of the table, but certainly at the front of the table.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3168.0,3173.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/508","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right? And I… but part of that is that you have to build enough capacity to be able to walk in and make your case.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3173.0,3178.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't think that people believe that libraries don't belong in those spaces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3178.0,3182.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think libraries never cross their mind. So it is not that those institutions are antagonistic to the participation of libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3182.0,3189.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/511","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is that they are ignorant. Um, and they don't see any real reason. Like, they think of librarians as people you can call upon, not people that you always have at the table from the jump.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3189.0,3200.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/512","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I think you have to build capacity, and then I think you just have to go, uh, be assertive and show why you belong in those spaces. I don't think that's a hard lift.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3200.0,3208.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/513","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because it is clear that some of the challenges.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3208.0,3211.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/514","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, especially at policy levels, at, you know, in education and workforce development. They're asking questions that they go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3211.0,3219.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/515","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My god, we don't know how to answer these things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3219.0,3221.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/516","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And… and I walk in as a future of learning and work person, and I say, where's the librarians?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3221.0,3226.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/517","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, they're not the answer to all these questions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3226.0,3228.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/518","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, they've always known the answer to these questions. They need to be included. So, part of it is that… that capacity building, and then the second is that kind of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3228.0,3236.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/519","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"attitudinal shift that libraries don't wait to be called on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3236.0,3239.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/520","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But that they insert themselves into those spaces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3239.0,3242.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/521","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, and…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3242.0,3243.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/522","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay, we've got about 5 minutes left, so I'm gonna… go ahead and pose a final question to all our panelists here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3243.0,3250.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/523","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that is looking to the future. Should librarians embrace, resist, or ignore AI?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3250.0,3259.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/524","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And what is one thing every librarian should do to prepare for the future?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3259.0,3263.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/525","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, with AI and libraries. So, final thoughts on this very complex topic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3263.0,3269.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/526","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I think that libraries must. Embrace, and be skeptical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3269.0,3277.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/527","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But ignore at their peril. Uh, you know, AI surrounds us already. We have to have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3277.0,3279.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/528","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3279.0,3284.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/529","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"perspective and information and services to help our communities with this inevitable technology.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3284.0,3292.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/530","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, on the skepticism side, I think that you… you have to question everything. Question.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3292.0,3297.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/531","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you know, what AI is contributing to the information ecosystem, and its positive and negative impacts on society in general.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3297.0,3308.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/532","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think that innovative… that… AI has a lot of potential to really enhance the way that libraries provide their services.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3308.0,3315.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/533","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it must be done with, kind of. Great care, and analysis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3315.0,3321.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/534","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, uh, you know, a need to make sure that it really does.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3321.0,3326.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/535","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"something better than was there before. So, do no harm, try to improve the outcome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3326.0,3333.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/536","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of the information ecosystem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3333.0,3338.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/537","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I think we need to embrace understanding AI, if not use it. Um, I think that's step one. Uh, you don't have to love it, and you don't have to… I don't think you have to really become an advocate for it, but I do think you have to become an advocate for understanding it, um, because that's, like, as librarians, we serve communities, and communities rely on us for that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3338.0,3356.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/538","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And if they don't realize that, then they should be, and we should be loud about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3356.0,3359.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/539","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and, uh, one thing anyone can do to prepare for the future with that is see what folks are already talking about. Um, ACRL, the Association of College and University Libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3359.0,3369.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/540","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"put out a series of AI competencies last year, uh, back in October. It's pretty good. Um, there's things to critique, and I think it's important to have an opinion about that, but, um, if you go look at those.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3369.0,3381.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/541","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you get a chance to look at those, I'll drop a link in the chat. Uh, and then ALA itself is also coming up with, uh, there's an ALA working group right now that's fixing to have some policy to bring to… the board for voting this summer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3381.0,3395.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/542","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so, have opinions about that, and be vocal about them, so that it actually reflects.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3395.0,3402.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/543","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the profession that is ostensibly represents.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3402.0,3406.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/544","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think the only piece of advice I'd give here is that libraries should try to think about how we move from being reactive to constructive.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3406.0,3415.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/545","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, instead of saying, well, what are we going to do about this?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3415.0,3418.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/546","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"To actually take some time and say, uh, what kind of world do we want to help build?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3418.0,3422.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/547","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What kind of… what kind of information-gathering behavior would we like to see in the future? How would we navigate some of the mistakes and the problems we've seen in the previous ways that we've done this with technology?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3422.0,3432.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/548","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How do we want these things to be better? How do we want these… things, uh, to serve humanity instead of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3432.0,3438.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/549","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"complicate or compromise our humanity. Um… And to really kind of proactively say, not only is, like, this what we hope for, but, like, this is what we demand, this is what we won't accept.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3438.0,3449.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/550","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I think we underestimate, as Peter pointed out. The collective power of libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3449.0,3454.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/551","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and to shape the way that these things are built, uh, going forward.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3454.0,3458.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/552","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, you know, I hope… I think about this quote from the late anthropologist David Graeber, he says.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3458.0,3464.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/553","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The ultimate hidden truth of the world. is that, uh, it is largely what we make it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3464.0,3469.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/554","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we could just as easily remake it. And it doesn't mean that it's easy to make in the first place, and it's not going to be easy to remake it, but it is just as easy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3469.0,3477.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/555","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to respond to what we have as it is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3477.0,3479.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/556","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Kind of make the world that we want, and we should commit ourselves to that hard work.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3479.0,3486.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/557","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, uh, fantastic and well said, Michael. Nice way to wrap us all up. I want to thank each of our panelists this afternoon, uh, for their time and insights, and I want to thank Micah and Michael Blackwell for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3486.0,3499.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/558","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Their leadership in bringing these topics together and finding us fantastic speakers. I hope that you will join us for our next program in the Digital Self.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3499.0,3508.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/559","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"shelf series, and we want to hear from you. If you have a idea on a topic we should be tackling, please reach out, let us know. We're easy to find.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3508.0,3518.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/560","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, Michael, or Micah, or myself. So, thank you all again, and we'll see you next time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3518.0,3523.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/561","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The next one's on what we should be paying for digital content. Tune in, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3523.0,3532.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167/transcript/89601/annotation/562","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bye.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/3564/collection_resources/166028/file/302167#t=3532.0,3562.0"}]}]}]}