{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/4746q1vf1m/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["Unbanned Voices: A Conversation with Abdi Nazemian"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/166/original/LYRASIS_Learning.png?1631557479","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["2025-10-30"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["English"]}},{"label":{"en":["Instructor"]},"value":{"en":["Abdi Nazemian","Jill Scarson","Jill Egan"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eUnbanned Voices: A Conversation with Abdi Nazemian\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eTo continue the focus on banned books in October, Lyrasis will offer a free webinar featuring award-winning writer Abdi Nazemian in conversation with Jill Egan, lead curator of The Banned Book Club.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eNazemian, whose acclaimed works-including \"Like a Love Story\" and \"Only This Beautiful Moment\"-will discuss the impact of censorship on LGBTQ+ Young Adult books and the power of literature in shaping young readers’ lives. This conversation is part of an effort by Lyrasis to ensure access to books that have been removed from schools and libraries due to bans.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eDon’t miss this opportunity to hear from an influential voice in YA literature and the author of multiple titles available in The Banned Book Club library of The Palace Project app!\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003ePresenters\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eAbdi Nazemian is the author of \"Only This Beautiful Moment\"—winner of the Stonewall Award and the Lambda Literary Award—and \"Like a Love Story\", a Stonewall Honor Book and one of Time’s 100 Best YA Books of All Time. He is also the author of the young adult novels \"Exquisite Things\", \"Desert Echoes\", \"The Chandler Legacies\", and \"The Authentics\". His novel \"The Walk-In Closet\" won the Lambda Literary Award for LGBT Debut Fiction. His screenwriting credits include the films The Artist’s Wife, The Quiet, and numerous television series. He has been a producer, executive producer or associate producer on numerous films, including Call Me by Your Name, Little Woods, and Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood. He lives in Los Angeles with his husband, their two children, and their dog, Disco.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJill Egan curates the Banned Book Club for Lyrasis. Jill has been a teacher librarian in K-12 international schools and public schools, and currently she is an instructional librarian at CT State Community College-Asnuntuck.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJill Scarson is the Partner Success Leader with the Palace Project, serving as liaison to library partners and aiding in the successful adoption of the Palace platform. She believes that Palace is uniquely poised to assist libraries in navigating the changing, and sometimes challenging, e-publishing ecosystem. Jill holds a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Illustration and Master’s of Library \u0026amp; Information Science from Syracuse University.\u003c/p\u003e"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eUnbanned Voices: A Conversation with Abdi Nazemian\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eTo continue the focus on banned books in October, Lyrasis will offer a free webinar featuring award-winning writer Abdi Nazemian in conversation with Jill Egan, lead curator of The Banned Book Club.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eNazemian, whose acclaimed works-including \"Like a Love Story\" and \"Only This Beautiful Moment\"-will discuss the impact of censorship on LGBTQ+ Young Adult books and the power of literature in shaping young readers\u0026rsquo; lives. This conversation is part of an effort by Lyrasis to ensure access to books that have been removed from schools and libraries due to bans.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eDon\u0026rsquo;t miss this opportunity to hear from an influential voice in YA literature and the author of multiple titles available in The Banned Book Club library of The Palace Project app!\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003ePresenters\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eAbdi Nazemian is the author of \"Only This Beautiful Moment\"\u0026mdash;winner of the Stonewall Award and the Lambda Literary Award\u0026mdash;and \"Like a Love Story\", a Stonewall Honor Book and one of Time\u0026rsquo;s 100 Best YA Books of All Time. He is also the author of the young adult novels \"Exquisite Things\", \"Desert Echoes\", \"The Chandler Legacies\", and \"The Authentics\". His novel \"The Walk-In Closet\" won the Lambda Literary Award for LGBT Debut Fiction. His screenwriting credits include the films The Artist\u0026rsquo;s Wife, The Quiet, and numerous television series. He has been a producer, executive producer or associate producer on numerous films, including Call Me by Your Name, Little Woods, and Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood. He lives in Los Angeles with his husband, their two children, and their dog, Disco.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJill Egan curates the Banned Book Club for Lyrasis. Jill has been a teacher librarian in K-12 international schools and public schools, and currently she is an instructional librarian at CT State Community College-Asnuntuck.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eJill Scarson is the Partner Success Leader with the Palace Project, serving as liaison to library partners and aiding in the successful adoption of the Palace platform. She believes that Palace is uniquely poised to assist libraries in navigating the changing, and sometimes challenging, e-publishing ecosystem. Jill holds a Bachelor of Fine Arts in Illustration and Master\u0026rsquo;s of Library \u0026amp; Information Science from Syracuse University.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"provider":[{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["LYRASIS"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["LYRASIS"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/166/original/LYRASIS_Learning.png?1631557479","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/296/611/small/GMT20251030-200239_Recording_1920x1200.mp4_1761925112.jpg?1761925114","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - GMT20251030-200239_Recording_1920x1200.mp4"]},"duration":3345.472,"width":640,"height":360,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collection_resource_files/thumbnails/000/296/611/small/GMT20251030-200239_Recording_1920x1200.mp4_1761925112.jpg?1761925114","type":"Image","format":"image/jpeg"}],"items":[{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-lyrasis.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/296/611/original/GMT20251030-200239_Recording_1920x1200.mp4?1761925108","type":"Video","format":"video/mp4","duration":3345.472,"width":640,"height":360},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611","metadata":[]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["Transcript [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The PELAS project is one of our newest endeavors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=0.0,2.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is a e-book platform, uh, alternative, that allows patrons to discover more of their library materials in one place.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, we also work on behalf of libraries to advocate for fairer pricing, further, uh, for ebooks and audiobooks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=11.0,17.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from our publishing partners. We're aligned with Library's mission to support access to information, and as such, our band book club library and the Palace app.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=17.0,26.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is free to anyone in the U.S. Who signs up for a virtual library card.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=26.0,31.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You'll find several of Abdi's titles included in the band book club, but enough about us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=31.0,36.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Today we're joined by Jill Egan, who will lead the discussion, Unmade Voices, a conversation with Abdi Nazebian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=36.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Joe curates the band book club for Palace. Uh, she has been a teacher librarian in K-12 International School, some public schools, and is currently an instructional librarian at a community college in Connecticut.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=43.0,57.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Moving on, Abdi is the author of Only This Beautiful Moment, which is a winner of a Stonewall Award and the Lambda Literary Award.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=57.0,67.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And like a love story, a Stonewall honor book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=67.0,70.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, and one of the times, 100 Best YA books of all time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=70.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He is also the author of Young adult novels, Exquisite Things, Desert Echoes, The Chandler Legacies, and The Authentics.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=76.0,85.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"His novel, The Walk-In Closet, One the Lambda Literary Award for LGBT Debut Fiction.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=85.0,91.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"His screenwriting credits include the films The Artist's Wife, The Quiet, and numerous television series.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=91.0,97.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He has been a producer, executive producer, or associate producer on numerous films, including Call Me By Your Name.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=97.0,104.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Little Woods and Scotty and the Secret History of Hollywood.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=104.0,108.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He lives in Los Angeles with his husband, their two children, and their dog, Disco. Lastly, just a few quick housekeeping things before we get started. We'll have some dedicated time for questions at the end of the discussion, so please feel free to add any to the Zoom chat or use the Q\u0026A features. I'll be monitoring them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=108.0,125.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we'll try to make sure that we can get to them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=125.0,127.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Additionally, if you run into any technical issues with Zoom, my colleague Shania is here to help.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=127.0,133.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And with that, I'm going to hand things over to our guests. We are so thankful to have you here today. Take it away, Jill!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=133.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. Hello, everyone. Thank you for joining us. I'm Jill Egan, and I am so happy to be part of this event today.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=140.0,149.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We librarians are well aware of the ever-growing problem of book banning in this country.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=149.0,156.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Since PEN America started tracking in 2021, they note that the top targets of sensors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=156.0,162.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have been children and young adult books. by and about people of color.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=162.0,167.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Books by and about LGBTQ people, and books about gender, sexuality, and puberty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=167.0,175.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And this makes Abdi Nazameen a perfect spokesperson to talk about the importance of supporting books in these categories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=175.0,183.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the necessity for building and protecting diverse collections in libraries.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=183.0,189.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Abdi, welcome, and thank you so much for being here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=189.0,193.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you. I was waiting when you introduced me and you said, and this makes Abdina Zemian a perfect… I thought you were gonna say, a perfect author to ban, because he thinks about all these boxes!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=193.0,204.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You took them all! Oh, dear. But let's… we won't focus on that immediately. Let's hear about the good stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=204.0,216.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I have… I have so much enjoyed, uh, looking through your books, getting to read so many of them in preparation for this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=216.0,225.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I was struck by how much, um, personal elements are in… of your own life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=225.0,233.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are in so many of the books, so let's start with that. Can you tell everyone just a bit about your background and how you got into writing?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=233.0,242.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sure. Um, gosh, I'll try and make it short, but you can ask follow-up questions if I zoom by anything too fast.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=242.0,249.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on Zoom. Um, I was born in Iran. And my family left when I was 2 years old, kind of toward the beginning of the revolution.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=249.0,257.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, we moved around quite a bit, so we went to France first, and then to Canada, and then to the New York area, and now I live in Los Angeles. But, um… you know, I think my childhood was very much marked by always being an outsider.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=257.0,271.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because I was going from country to country to places with new languages and cultural norms to learn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=271.0,277.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and also being an outsider in my own family and culture, because as I started to realize I was gay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=277.0,284.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it was a time when, within the Iranian diaspora, there really was no… LGBT culture, no, there was really no word for being gay in the Persian language when I was growing up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=284.0,296.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It wasn't even something acknowledged. And similarly, as I started to come out into the gay community, I quickly understood that the Western gay community had no understanding for my experience as an Iranian.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=296.0,308.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They were really framing my experience through the lens of what they knew. And so… I suppose being an outsider made me want to… tell my stories. Also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=308.0,320.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"added to the fact that I was just someone who loved books and movies and… narrative storytelling. They saved my life. You know, being, like many outsider kids, I'm sure all the librarians know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=320.0,331.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They tend to hang out in the libraries, they tend to… you know, seek refuge in spaces of storytelling, because that stories give us hope and let us dream and imagine ourselves in… in futures that might be better. 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I think I had this realization that I had to find a way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=394.0,402.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to tell stories that were… personal, that were mine. I had to… I didn't want to leave behind writing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=402.0,408.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That bore no resemblance to my life and my values. I wanted my kids to be able to turn to my work and see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=408.0,414.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what their dad lived and stood for, and so that's where these books came from, and now… I've had 7 published books every single one of them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=414.0,423.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from the first, which, from what I've been told, and no one's contradicted, is the first book ever to have a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=423.0,428.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"gay male Iranian lead. Um… up until now, every book has had a big spotlight on both queerness and Iranian identity.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=428.0,438.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I don't see myself ever pulling away from that. I think, if anything, the book bans have made me more… adamant that every single book must.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=438.0,448.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"have these elements, because I see… how much… It's needed, you know, and… And if it scares people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=448.0,456.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=456.0,459.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"then we have to work harder to make them see, because I think if you read the books and the book banners tend not to read the books, as I've learned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=459.0,465.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But if you read the books, I think you see that they're full of empathy and love and… forgiveness and ways to come together. I mean, I see these books as an offering.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=465.0,474.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"of my heart, and if you offer your heart, then that inspires others to do the same, and then you build bridges and realize that as humans, we have so much more in common.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=474.0,486.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, yeah. Well, like what you said about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=486.0,487.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"than we do. different, and um…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=487.0,492.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that feeling of being an outsider and being an other to… I suppose the majority.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=492.0,500.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"really is probably more common than… than it is unique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=500.0,506.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, um, so many people have their own… their own brand of otherness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=506.0,507.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=507.0,513.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I think that… that in your books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=513.0,518.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Although there may not be, um. it may not be an Iranian who is reading it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=518.0,525.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But can identify with that sense of… being… being outside of the majority, and looking in and trying to fit in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=525.0,534.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Absolutely, and look, I grew up obsessed with. worlds that were not my own. I mean, I loved old Hollywood films. That's not a world that I belonged in or knew anything about when I discovered James Baldwin, I saw a lot of myself in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=534.0,548.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"his work. I mean, I'm not a Black American, but I could see in his exploration of intersectionality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=548.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and queerness, a lot of my own story, um, I've talked to many writers from the kind of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=554.0,561.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Arab and Middle East, although I hate Middle East, so we say, like, West Asia now, but that… my part of the world.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=561.0,568.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And many of us grew up obsessed with Irish authors and artists, and I started to piece together that that had a lot to do with… that within the Western world, those Irish narratives felt closest to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=568.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to us. So, absolutely, like. the more specific you are, the more universal it is, and the experiences we have of being outsiders, of falling in love, of feeling heartbreak, of… leaving our families, of cobbling together chosen families. I mean, these are…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=578.0,593.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These are both very specific to us, and also very universal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=593.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, to… to, um, get back to some of the accolades and the awards, they have been… really, the books have been so well received, so well acclaimed. Congratulations, you've won and been honored.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=600.0,616.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by the Lambda Literary Awards, Stonewall, uh, several Junior Guild selections, several.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=616.0,622.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"starred, uh, reviews. And yet. And yet, these same books!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=622.0,629.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"These are the ones that are challenged in scores of locations.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=629.0,634.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And have been formally removed from dozens of school districts.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=634.0,639.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we have to mention how, like a love story, has been subjected to a statewide ban.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=639.0,647.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Across all public schools in Utah. Which, I think that there's only about, uh, 15 or 16 other.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=647.0,655.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"titles that have that… that dubious honor.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=655.0,659.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, it's a very short list. I do believe, sadly, they're up to 19 as of last week.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=659.0,664.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, God.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=664.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I got the alert of another one being added, so it is slowly rising, and I'm sure we'll see more of these statewide bans as… as this can…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=665.0,672.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, speak to that. Personally, just for a moment, how… how it feels. How does it feel?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=672.0,681.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So that the words that you. wrote for young people. Your books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=681.0,685.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are intended for a young adult audience. How does it feel to know that those words and ideas that you chose for young people were considered inappropriate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=685.0,697.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"by some people for that audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=697.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. So, okay, let's think of how to… how to even… there's so many ways to answer this. Like a love story, my most banned book, as you said, it's one of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=700.0,710.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a very short list banned statewide in Utah is… about 3 teenagers growing up in New York in the late 80s, early 90s. It's my era.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=710.0,719.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And it's really… the plot of it is fiction, but emotionally, it's very autobiographical. It's about the feeling of fear and shame and stigma I had in those worst years of the HIV-AIDS crisis, and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=719.0,731.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how much my generation of gay men internalized it, because we were coming into ourselves as teens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=731.0,736.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"when it was already at its worst, and all we knew of being gay was… death and shame and fear.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=736.0,742.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But it's also about how. the community came together through activism and music to fight back. And… In the book, there's a mentor character. Mentorship is a theme in many, many of my books, because I think it's so important for young people to have special…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=742.0,757.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"actually queer young people, or people who don't share something with their parents, like queerness is often not shared by your parents to have adult mentors, so… in the book, the mentor character, Uncle Steven.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=757.0,768.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he makes these kind of note cards that he calls Gay 101 note cards for the kids, where he talks about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=768.0,773.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"queer culture and… history and concepts and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=773.0,779.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In the book, he says, I have to do this because you will… it will never be taught at school. Your school will never teach you about our history and our culture. And so when, like a Love Story came out, and to your point, it was celebrated, it did get a Stonewall Honor, it was chosen as one of Time Magazine's Best YA novels of All Time, etc.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=779.0,798.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It did start to be taught in schools, and there was a period before the book bans where I was visiting so many schools, and it was so moving.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=798.0,805.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because here I was with children, children, teenagers, but many of whom.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=805.0,811.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We're making connections through history in terms of queer culture, in terms of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=811.0,816.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Reagan's government and Trump's government during COVID, they were… they were parsing out what the book was saying, applying it to their own lives. It was so moving. It made me feel so healed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=816.0,826.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I had a moment of thinking, wow, in this book I say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=826.0,830.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our history will never be taught in schools, and maybe I'm finally wrong. Maybe the moment has come. And then boom, the book bans come, and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=830.0,836.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the words of the book are proven right. And so, I suppose my answer is on the one case… on the one hand, I'm unsurprised.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=836.0,844.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because… I say it in the book, and here I am, and I've lived it. I've lived cycles of… progress, and then the progress is… is attacked by… you know, repressive governments.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=844.0,857.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But also, the emotional part of it is very painful. Like, I… I've luckily come out on the other side of it for a little bit in the beginning, I did feel very… sprayed, reactionary…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=857.0,869.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bad, because it… it almost reminded me of what I felt like when I was a kid, and I was… full of shame and hiding.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=869.0,877.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But then, when I, because I'm an adult and I have such a good support system and so many tools.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=877.0,882.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I did regain my strength and resilience, then I'm just left with sadness for today's teenagers, because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=882.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so many of us are fighting so hard to tell these stories, to be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=889.0,894.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"educators who are inclusive to be activists, to be… whatever you are doing to be additive and make the world better for young people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=894.0,901.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We do it because we know how awful it felt to be young and feel like the world wanted you to be invisible. And when you ban a book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=901.0,909.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That represents a young person's community and their identity solely for that reason, which we know is the reason books are banned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=909.0,916.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"you are telling that young person that they should be invisible.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=916.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They should remain invisible, and that's how I felt. I know what that is. So… It just leaves me with this feeling of heartbreak that young people have to suffer needlessly, because there's no re… There's no reason to make young people feel that they can't be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=920.0,934.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"whoever they want to be, and love whoever they want to love.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=934.0,939.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"There are some people, I always get the argument when I talk about the books being banned that, well, the books are still available, nobody's saying that they can't go out and buy them, or like what we're doing, we're making it available through the band book club.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=939.0,954.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The books are still there. But what would you say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=954.0,959.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is lost when books are banned from school libraries and school classrooms.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=959.0,964.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you for that question, because I hear that all the time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=964.0,968.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"from people who challenge… when I use the word band, and they're like, well, it's not really band.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=968.0,972.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=972.0,973.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, you know, these books are… Correct, available to be purchased. In Utah, for example, you cannot bring the book into a public school even for personal reading. So it can't be in your backpack, you can't be caught with it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=973.0,988.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If you are caught with it, I think either as a student or educator, there's these protocols to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=988.0,994.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"returning it that are absolutely wild. I mean, it can't even just be thrown out. It has to go in a special envelope, sealed with, like, um, sensitive material on it, sent to a specific address.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=994.0,1005.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, what is lost? I mean, number one, I think, for the community of educators, writers, students, everybody involved.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1005.0,1015.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what is lost is that within this institutional. community that was created, there was a chance to… tell young people that they are loved and included, and that is lost.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1015.0,1027.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, those books cannot be taught, and a book like mine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1027.0,1031.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is I recognize I write historical fiction, YA, I write.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1031.0,1035.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stuff that's very challenging. I have two teenagers. Teenagers are not going to the bookstore and running to, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1035.0,1042.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the historical fiction about the AIDS crisis. You know, they're running to romanticize. And that's wonderful. I have nothing against that. I buy my.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1042.0,1053.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1053.0,1054.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"kids whatever book they want to read. Any reading is a win. Um… But I recognize that the way most teenagers came to my books and come to my books is through schools and libraries. That is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1054.0,1062.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how those books are found. I also recognize that books like mine that do have challenging material, and I don't mean.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1062.0,1069.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the stuff that people want to ban. I'm talking about the themes it bring-ups. I'm talking about moments in history that are difficult. I'm talking about things that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1069.0,1078.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"our best, often best discussed in a classroom, because there's a lot of nuance to it, and that is lost. 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I mean, those are things that are… mentioned in the book, but very quickly, you know, you would need that guidance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1094.0,1102.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1102.0,1105.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So all of that is lost. And beyond that, it creates a culture of fear. I've talked to many people at this point, both educators, authors, publishers, everybody.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1105.0,1114.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The culture of fear created by the book bands means that even in communities where books are not banned, they are much less likely to be stocked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1114.0,1122.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because schools and libraries don't want 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start.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1158.0,1164.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"disappearing because the market is not going to be able to sustain.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1164.0,1168.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that many of them. And so, quite a bit is lost. And look, ban is a word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1168.0,1174.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's the word that we use if someone wants to say, well, it's not really banned because they want to parse out the technicality.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1174.0,1182.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1182.0,1183.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so be it. But we're… I'm here to talk about the issue in a more nuanced way. I'm here to talk about what is lost when young people feel that their community has turned its back on them, doesn't support them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1183.0,1192.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where they feel they can't speak openly in their classrooms anymore.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1192.0,1193.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1193.0,1197.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I mean, they're the things that are lost that matter to me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1197.0,1198.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Yeah, no, those, uh, restrictions are… are felt, and there's… there is a ripple effect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1198.0,1208.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1208.0,1209.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That extends from that. So, um, well, let me ask you, then, a pointed question. If… if it is impacting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1209.0,1219.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"your writing. And, uh, if you still want to be writing for young people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1219.0,1225.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, how about shaping some of the book content, too, that makes it suitable for the objectors? And what I mean is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1225.0,1235.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that your books don't shy away from some physical intimacy. Like, your characters are in love, they can't wait to mush their faces together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1235.0,1247.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You could play it safe and leave that sort of stuff out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1247.0,1252.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, um, but… Why? What do you… why do you think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1252.0,1258.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the sexy stuff is essential in a young adult book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1258.0,1262.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ah, these are great questions, um… So, I mean, I'll go back to my own young adult years. I… The book that I had to read the summer before I was a freshman in high school was the school-wide read, was I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings by Maya Angelou.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1262.0,1279.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is now a widely banned book in 2025. I read it as a… 13-year-old going on 14. I suppose it's now banned for even 17 and 18 year olds. Um, that book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1279.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they say is banned because it deals. with her sexual abuse, um… I think there are other reasons, as we know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1290.0,1298.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dealing with race, but, um, I… think a book like that was immensely helpful to me. There was a huge culture of abuse at the boarding school I went to, which I've written about in one of my novels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1298.0,1308.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And to read about… a woman's experience with abuse, and how she survived and overcame.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1308.0,1316.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"was really powerful. Um… The most famous case of banning, I remember, as a young person was, of course, Madonna, my all-time icon, who I've.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1316.0,1326.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"written about in, like, a love story quite a bit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1326.0,1328.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But, you know, her video for Justify My Love was banned from MTV.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1328.0,1332.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that was because of its depictions of queer sexuality. There was so much sexuality on MTV that was heterosexual, so we knew… everyone knew the reason, and she was so unafraid and unapologetic to stand up for.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1332.0,1345.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the gay community of the time on TV and interviews, and that taught me a lot.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1345.0,1351.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I say all this to say these instances of… of… of work that is banned or was banned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1351.0,1357.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"deal so, um, bluntly with sexuality. I found them as a teenager, and they saved me. You know, I was a teenager who was raised with so much shame. If it weren't for authors like Maya Angelou and artists like Madonna, I wouldn't have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1357.0,1371.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"worked through my shame. And so… I do think it's very important, and I have teenagers, so I come at this as a parent as well. I know how.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1371.0,1379.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/186","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"hard it is to raise teens. I know how scary it is that the world has so many.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1379.0,1386.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/187","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"inputs coming to them, you know, just like every parent, I question everything. I'm like, should they be playing that video game? Should they be watching that? Should they be doing that? I am a parent. I get it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1386.0,1395.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/188","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I really think teenagers are coming into their sexuality, and they need depictions of sexuality to learn from.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1395.0,1403.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/189","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, I believe that, and I believe that applies to all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1403.0,1407.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/190","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"teenagers, including queer ones. We can't just have it be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1407.0,1411.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/191","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"heterosexual. So… I am not interested.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1411.0,1415.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/192","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in editing myself for the book banners. Um, my new book is called Exquisite Things, and it is very much my response to all of this. It's a… it's a… story that starts in London in the 1890s during Oscar Wilde's trial for gross indecency.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1415.0,1431.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/193","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Another band author, of course, and it ends in the present day, and it's about these two immortal boys searching for a time where their love isn't a crime, and where they can feel free and safe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1431.0,1442.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/194","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But really, for me, in addition to a love story, it's a… It's a story about queer resilience over time. The book kind of stops in these moments of repression, where.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1442.0,1452.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/195","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"these two young lovers think they might be happy, and then you realize time and time again you're gonna come up against the same forces of oppression.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1452.0,1459.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/196","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And ultimately, what I come back to is we always.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1459.0,1463.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/197","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"remain resilient, no matter how many times they have tried to stop us from expressing ourselves. Anytime they've tried to silence us, it doesn't work, and this will not work either. We will be here when this ends.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1463.0,1475.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/198","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I want… my books do not sell what they used to, they never will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1475.0,1481.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/199","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's over, like, the institutional buying is over. Many authors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1481.0,1485.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/200","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are fleeing because the money's not that good anymore. I mean, most authors, myself included, are getting paid less for their subsequent book deals than past ones, because the books just can't sell as much, and that's the truth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1485.0,1497.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/201","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I don't care. I mean, I'm not doing it for that reason. So… My mission right now is to… be really resilient and to write books that are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1497.0,1507.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/202","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"standing in what I know to be. the truth that I want to convey.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1507.0,1513.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/203","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And to show the young people who are readers of my books that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1513.0,1521.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/204","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mm-hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1521.0,1522.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/205","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"what it looks like when you don't cower, and when you don't… Uh, because that's something that really is scaring me, just on a mass scale, and I know this is… I am… so grateful for all educators, all librarians. I know that you are truly the ones on the front lines of these issues with book banning, not the authors. You are living it day-to-day, you are dealing with it, you are…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1522.0,1537.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/206","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"giving those children safe spaces. But on the macro scale, I'm very alarmed by higher education kind of capitulating so easily to this government. I went to Columbia.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1537.0,1549.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/207","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"University, that's my alma mater. I am appalled at their actions. Um… And… and it really, really scares me, and I think that we need to model for young people what resilience looks like, and what it looks like when we say, no, we are not going to shift our values when we know they're the correct ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1549.0,1569.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/208","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Just because the people in power are trying to scare us. So, I am unafraid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1569.0,1572.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/209","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Good. Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1572.0,1573.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/210","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I am here doing the work. I know you are too, and we are a… big community of people who are doing this work, and I appreciate that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1573.0,1583.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/211","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, one of… one phrase that you used that I especially liked, um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1583.0,1588.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/212","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in one of your notes at the end of the book was speaking about the spiritual mentorship of storytellers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1588.0,1596.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/213","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And about how… not only had you benefited from those before you, but that you felt a responsibility to your readers in the same sort of way, and… I think that, um, that what you just said exemplifies that, so…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1596.0,1615.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/214","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, thank you. Thank you for going… Um, being undeterred in telling your stories.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1615.0,1622.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/215","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Well, thank you. I mean, thank you for doing your part, and thank everyone listening, the educators, the librarians. I really think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1622.0,1630.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/216","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"This is a moment, and I say this to everyone I encounter who tells me that they're… scared, or that they're tuning out of the world because the world's become so scary and chaotic, is… We all… I was talking to…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1630.0,1642.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/217","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the great hero of young adult and children's literature, David Levithan, recently, who I'm obsessed with and who is one of the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1642.0,1649.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/218","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people behind Authors Against Book Bans, this amazing organization.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1649.0,1653.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/219","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, but he was telling me that, because he started this organization, Authors Against Book Bans, and I asked him how he came to do that, and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1653.0,1660.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/220","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"he was saying he was given advice about you have to pick the thing you can do, and then contribute it to the world. You can't… If you think you can do everything or get overwhelmed by the world, you boil it down to, what is my… what is my offering to the world? What is my skill?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1660.0,1674.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/221","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And… and this is mine, like, I know the things I'm not good at. Like, I love a lot of activists, but I'm not that person. I'm not good at organizing, I'm not good at, you know, I'm good at writing. Like, I'm good at writing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1674.0,1685.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/222","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Good.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1685.0,1686.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/223","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I'm good at speaking to young people, I know that. Like, I can go into classrooms, I've always had that ability to meet a young people, a young person where they're at.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1686.0,1695.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/224","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, I take my skills and I try to do some good with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1695.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/225","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that's… and I wish everyone would do that. Just think about what you can contribute to the world, however small, however big.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1699.0,1706.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, I think that's good advice. Well, your skills, though, are not limited to just the… novels to writing that, so… Is there a possibility for some of these books to hit the big screen? Could they be…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1706.0,1723.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Option enough?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1723.0,1724.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/228","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, well, so, well, um, I told… I told you the reason I started writing the books is because I… I was so frustrated by Hollywood's, kind of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1724.0,1735.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/229","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1735.0,1736.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/230","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"refusal to make any of the scripts that I loved most that were very Iranian and very queer, and… with the books, I thought maybe that was, like, a different route to getting a movie or TV show made, and many of my books have been optioned by very impressive people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1736.0,1747.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/231","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"My first young adult novel, The Authentics, my first… the first first novel, which was an adult novel, The Walk-In Closet.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1747.0,1755.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/232","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"like, a love story, um… all were optioned by pretty starry people in Hollywood. Um, so there's no… lack of passion and imagination when you're talking about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1755.0,1765.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/233","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"producers, directors, actors, they get it. They see the vision, and they're all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1765.0,1770.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/234","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ready to try and support. inevitably, when it came time to go to the people who can actually fund projects like this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1770.0,1777.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/235","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they all passed, and so none of them went anywhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1777.0,1779.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/236","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that, in a way, has vindicated my decision to write them as books, because they just can't be made as movies or TV shows. There's just… there's no way within the current Hollywood system.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1779.0,1792.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/237","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"borrowing. Like, once in a while, you will have a miracle show. Like, one of those shows where you're like, how did that one get made? And usually it's because someone very, very powerful just… it was their passion project, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1792.0,1803.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/238","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I am very aware that. it's gonna be very hard to make these particular books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1803.0,1810.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/239","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to work with that business model.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1810.0,1811.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/240","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you feel like… Do you feel like that's another form of censorship? Is the ideology such that it's not supporting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1811.0,1820.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/241","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that type of story in film?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1820.0,1824.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/242","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is a great question. I don't… I don't know that I would call that censorship. I feel like that might be… the… it doesn't feel like the right word.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1824.0,1834.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/243","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But… Hollywood, ultimately, is a business, and I… I do love this business. I mean, I still work on it, I just wrapped on two TV shows over the summer. Like, I still do this. It is my primary source of income, and…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1834.0,1847.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/244","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It is where most of my friends work, and I do love Hollywood quite a bit for all its flaws. Um, but… It is ultimately a business that runs on the audience, and books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1847.0,1858.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/245","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are cheaper to produce. Hollywood movies or TV shows are quite expensive, and so you need a very big audience.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1858.0,1865.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/246","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And that requires things that make books like mine very hard to make. So you take, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1865.0,1871.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/247","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a book like Only This Beautiful Moment, so that's, like, my favorite book that I've written.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1871.0,1875.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/248","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That takes place in the 1930s, the 1970s, and the present day. So, now think of it as a movie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1875.0,1880.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/249","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's like a great movie!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1880.0,1882.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right, but think of the expense of recreating both Tehran and Los Angeles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1882.0,1886.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1886.0,1887.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/252","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And not one, not two, but three historical time periods. Then you have to think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1887.0,1892.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/253","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The three leads are Iranian men. Can you name an Iranian male star? Because that's how things get greenlit, is stars.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1892.0,1900.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/254","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, you can't. And anytime Hollywood has made a movie about Iranians, look them up. See who played us.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1900.0,1906.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/255","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Never any wrong. Never any wrongian. Um, so… there's… these are just… this is just the reality. Now, if you call that censorship, I mean, I don't know what the right word is. There was just a report on… on, um, the Anklore, which is an industry trade about female directors in Hollywood, and for all of the work that so many organizations are doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1906.0,1927.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/256","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to create opportunities for female directors. It's almost at an all-time low. I mean, it's… It's shocking how few opportunities there are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1927.0,1935.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/257","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, I mean… when even, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1935.0,1939.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/258","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"white women are finding it hard to have an avenue in Hollywood. I don't know how queer Iranians are gonna… are gonna find their avenue. It's just really hard, but it doesn't mean that I don't work. See, the thing… the irony for me, and this is where.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1939.0,1952.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/259","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"there's such a huge disconnect, and I'm so proud that I get to do the books on the side, is that I still work in Hollywood. I still get hired, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1952.0,1960.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/260","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the scripts that I get hired based off of are very personal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1960.0,1963.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/261","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Like, I wrote a very personal script about. a gay dad, it deals with queerness, with my experience as a parent, with Iranian culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1963.0,1971.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/262","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That script will never be made, but it's gotten me so many jobs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1971.0,1976.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"on other TV shows. So it does its job, for me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1976.0,1977.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1977.0,1980.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/265","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But unfortunately, there's no route to it being produced as written, so… These are hard questions. I… I hope… My true hope is that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1980.0,1991.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/266","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"this gets better, though I think it will be worse for a while, because, of course, DEI is mandated to be… First, so the government would force these corporations to stop supporting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1991.0,1996.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/267","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah, yeah, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=1996.0,2002.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/268","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"people of color and marginalized communities in the arts, um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2002.0,2006.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/269","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But my hope is it will swing back, it will.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2006.0,2009.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/270","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And my hope is that in a generation or two, there will be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2009.0,2012.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/271","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"so many stories like mine in Hollywood, and that whoever gets to tell them will… will remember that there was a generation I was a part of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2012.0,2021.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/272","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"bought to open those doors. It's always the way it works. It takes time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2021.0,2025.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/273","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes. Well, um, I know that librarians are still looking to diversify collection, and we… collections, we are still looking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2025.0,2036.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/274","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to find lots of different stories that reflect our readers and reflect all.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2036.0,2044.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/275","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sorts of people. And so, another book that I want to be sure to plug.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2044.0,2050.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/276","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is the anthology that you had a chapter in for the rest of us, I… I love that title. Can you tell us a little bit about that one?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2050.0,2059.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/277","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Got it here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2059.0,2060.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/278","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, do you have it there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2060.0,2065.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/279","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2065.0,2072.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/280","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's an anthology, yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2072.0,2073.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/281","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, so that one, I mean, I don't want to take too much credit for… for the rest of us, because that is really… it is an anthology, and it's not my antho. I mean, Dahlia Adler, who is the editor, is the…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2073.0,2078.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/282","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2078.0,2079.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/283","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is the visionary behind that anthology. She is the brains behind it, um… the anthology is a series. I thought it was such a great idea. It's a series of festive Hollywood… Hollywood… we're just talking so much holiday story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2079.0,2092.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/284","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Holidays.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2092.0,2093.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/285","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, and… And it's… it's… she made a real effort to shine a light on holidays that people may not know about.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2093.0,2103.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And diversify how we think about holidays, and so I got to write a story about Noruz, which is the Persian New Year, which is, like, the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2103.0,2110.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/287","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"most important holiday in our culture, and it's… to me, it's always been such a beautiful holiday, because it's… It represents rebirth. It happens at the moment of the spring equinox, so unlike the… Western New Year, which is at midnight. It's always at a different time. 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I mean, as a parent who has kids, I know our school does make a huge effort, but I know how hard it is. Like, obviously.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2136.0,2150.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/290","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"every school in America probably acknowledges. Thanksgiving and Christmas and… and holidays that are baked into the Western experience, but many of them might not know that one of their students' families.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2150.0,2162.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/291","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"or other holidays, so…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2162.0,2163.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/292","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That's right, yeah. No, we are always looking for something that covers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2163.0,2172.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/293","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2172.0,2173.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/294","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the rest of us, as this says, um… 13 festive holidays to celebrate all seasons, so that's one that I wanted to be sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2173.0,2179.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/295","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to mention. And then… Um, last fun fact that I wanted to mention for people that maybe want to do something fun with your books, if you have Abdi's books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2179.0,2193.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/296","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Be sure to look up the playlists that go along. I thought this was so great. Tell me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2193.0,2200.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/297","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Are these… is… are these collections of songs what you were listening to as you were writing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2200.0,2207.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or is it more like an ambiance that the story creates?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2207.0,2211.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, music is my biggest, biggest passion. I am a music.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2211.0,2216.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/300","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2216.0,2217.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/301","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"fan. Like, I'm a true fan. I love music, and I don't love… I don't love, like, one musician or one kind of music. 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They're like, even I haven't heard of that artist. How do you know? And I'm like, I just spent so much time. But, no, music, because it… is so much the fabric of my life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2241.0,2251.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/305","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"inevitably plays a huge role in my books. And so.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2251.0,2254.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/306","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"often, because I write young adult books, and because I recognize that I am littering the books with references to songs that nobody will have heard of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2254.0,2262.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/307","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I mean, some of the songs are very obscure, but even teen readers have told me they hadn't heard a Madonna song till.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2262.0,2267.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/308","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"they read, like, a love story. 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Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2340.0,2341.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/318","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I loved it too, and… And to… for us educators, that's just another way of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2341.0,2349.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/319","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"diving in and exploring and making cross-connections, it's another way to connect with.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2349.0,2355.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/320","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"students about, like you were saying, to the time period and the culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2355.0,2361.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/321","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, um, so I think that that's fabulous. You've sort of got a built-in lesson plan.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2361.0,2367.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/322","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"with your playlists there for people that want to take it a step further.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2367.0,2369.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/323","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That is interesting. That is true. And I'm sure the educators here know this, but many, many books like mine do have educators' guides.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2369.0,2378.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/324","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2378.0,2379.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/325","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"In my case, they're usually on the HarperCollins page for the book, so all my books have been published by HarperCollins. And if you go there, they tend to have… it's free to use, it's a PDF.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2379.0,2388.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/326","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Awesome.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2388.0,2389.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/327","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You download it, it's questions, exercises, they always bring in educators to create them, and… I've gotten very close with some of those people, and they're so smart, and…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2389.0,2397.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/328","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Fantastic, that's great. Well, let's say, um, if there are some questions from anybody else besides me. Jill, did… did any questions come in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2397.0,2409.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/329","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We do have a couple questions, uh, in the Q\u0026A option, and I can read the first one off if you'd like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2409.0,2416.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/330","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, please.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2416.0,2417.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/331","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Sure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2417.0,2418.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/332","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Uh, uh, the first one is, how can we help young people stand strong in their decisions, their opinions.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2418.0,2424.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/333","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"When so often they are facing misinformation and disinformation, often from older people.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2424.0,2432.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/334","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ooh, that is a very good question. I mean, I think… It's… there's never gonna be a perfect answer for a question like that, because it's so case-by-case about where is the… you know, if the misinformation is coming from a parent of theirs, that's very hard, that's…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2432.0,2449.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/335","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"their primary adult guardian, um… I know with my kids, they're almost 14.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2449.0,2456.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/336","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I talk to them a lot about just… trying to get them to their own.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2456.0,2463.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/337","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sense of who they are. So, it's not about… listening to an adult, you listen to the inputs of the adult, and then you try to come to your own conclusions. And so it's about giving them agency.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2463.0,2476.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/338","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, the only… I didn't… I didn't… take a lot of parenting classes. The only one I took was… was a class with an organization called Rye, and it was all about how even as babies, you want to treat babies as.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2476.0,2487.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/339","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"as beings who have agency, so you don't just, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2487.0,2489.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/340","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"pick them up and move them across the room. You talk to them, you tell them, I'm gonna do this now, you have autonomy over yourself, and… And, you know, as a parent, I often tell my children, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2489.0,2499.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/341","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"School's a place for you to. Be yourself, independent of us. You don't have to tell us everything that happens to school. 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I mean, theater… ugh, I love theater, I love Broadway, I love musicals. One of the reasons I go to London to write, I don't know if I even mentioned that, I go to London to write almost all the first drafts of my books. 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This would be a couple years ago at this point. Somebody in the audience asked a question, and the question was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2565.0,2576.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/350","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"If your book was a musical, it was a panel, if your book was a musical, who would write the music?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2576.0,2581.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/351","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I said, well, this is so Iranian that I don't know who, but I knew there was… there was a young Iranian composer there who I love.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2581.0,2589.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/352","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who's actually the brother of the YA novelist Alexandra Monier.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2589.0,2593.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/353","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I said it would have to be an Iranian composer like Arianne Saleh here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2593.0,2597.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/354","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"He called me a few months later, and he's like, I couldn't get what you said of the reading out of your head, and I want to play you some songs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2597.0,2602.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/355","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And he played me songs. And so, we are now very slowly, because we're both very busy, working on a musical.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2602.0,2611.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/356","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"adaptation of only this beautiful moment, and because I… Yeah, and so the fun thing about that is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2611.0,2613.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/357","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, ouch!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2613.0,2617.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/358","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"The reason… I mean, beyond the fact that he's such a talented musician, and to me, like, to get to… because I love music so much, to get to be a part of anything, because I don't have musical talent.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2617.0,2627.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/359","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Anything involving music is such a dream. The other part of it is on stage, everything that would be so expensive in the movies would not be expensive on stage. On stage, you don't need to recreate the 1930s. It can be a bare stage. You can have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2627.0,2640.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/360","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"projections. You can… you can literally have nothing. I mean, you know, I've seen plays that do so much with just little… things. So, the idea that you're doing three time periods on stage is not… is not, like, um, a deal-breaker budget-wise.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2640.0,2655.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/361","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, the Iranian peace might still be a challenge, because… you… I don't know how castable that is, although I just saw Ragtime on Broadway, highly recommend if anybody is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2655.0,2666.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/362","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, in New York, and the actor who plays Houdini is Iranian, and… He's amazing, and my hope is that… a new generation of Iranian actors will be moving into musical theater, and we can find them by the time we finish writing. 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I haven't… done it before, so it's a huge challenge, but… I love a challenge.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2682.0,2693.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/364","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Follow-up question, uh, what's the… what's the, uh, the best show that you've seen in the last couple years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2693.0,2694.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/365","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2694.0,2699.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/366","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I know it's hard, it's like… it's like picking your favorite child, I know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2699.0,2703.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/367","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh my god, I've seen so many good shows!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2703.0,2707.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/368","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um… I mean, in New York, in the US, I would have to say Sunset Boulevard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2707.0,2715.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/369","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It was transcendent. I mean, I've seen the Glenn Close version, so I know what that is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2715.0,2722.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/370","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, I know, and Glenn was so brilliant, but this Sunset Boulevard was all about the direction and… Um, we took our children… And they were kind of… our kids love musicals, but mostly they want to go see the musicals they know, so it's like, take us to Wicked, take us to Hamilton, take us to Heathers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2722.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/371","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And with this one, they're like, what's that? We don't want to go. And I swear it's the show that changed everything, because they loved it so much that they were like, oh, now… now we're open to going to anything.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2740.0,2750.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/372","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"will trust you. Um, I also love the Dorian Gray adaptation. Of course, my book, Exquisite Things is largely inspired by the picture of Dorian Gray.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2750.0,2759.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/373","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So, to see Sarah Snook and the team of collaborators turn it into this one-woman show? I mean, mind-blowing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2759.0,2766.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/374","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, that one I saw in London. I guess those probably stand out as two of my… favorites.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2766.0,2776.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/375","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Amazing, and I'm right there with your kids on Sunset Boulevard. I'm only… was only familiar, basic, with the basic.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2776.0,2784.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/376","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"plot, but I've seen clips. I haven't seen it yet. Or, well, I guess it closed, but I had not seen it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2784.0,2785.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/377","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Did you see it? I have to say… So, yeah, it's now closed, but I have to say, I also got to see, for anyone who didn't see it, I'm pretty sure it's transferring to Broadway, I don't know when.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2785.0,2796.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/378","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I got to see cats, the Jella coal ball.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2796.0,2799.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/379","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interesting.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2799.0,2800.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/380","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Which is cats reset in the world of ballroom and voguing, and it… passed a lot of original.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2800.0,2804.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/381","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh…","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2804.0,2806.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/382","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ballroom people in it, and I was not a Cats fan. I really resent cats, because when I was a teenager, my parents went to see Six Degrees of Separation with Stocker Channing, which I was dying to see, and they thought it was too mature for me and my cousin, so they put us in cats while they went to sea.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2806.0,2821.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/383","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"stalker Channing, and to this day, I'm like, ugh, cats.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2821.0,2825.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/384","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But to see cats reinvented this way was so… powerful, and I never understood what CATS was about. And when this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2825.0,2835.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/385","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"aging ballroom diva who… has somehow survived AIDS and survived everything, saying memory. I turned to one of my best friends who I saw with, I'm like, oh my god, Katz is about aging! Like, I understand this show! 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They're actually brilliant!","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2858.0,2864.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/388","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They could be in a van over here, but I agree with you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2864.0,2866.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/389","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oh, well, Aviva is the best. Avita is one of my top 3 musicals ever, ever. And I stand by that Madonna movie with all my heart. I could watch it 10 million times.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2866.0,2881.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/390","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, if… you mentioned Oscar Wilde. I think we have time to touch on this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2881.0,2888.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/391","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that you… felt that this… Bringing him into the storyline was an opportunity to sort of address book banning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2888.0,2899.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/392","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in… as a response at the same time. How do you see parallels with Oscar Wilde?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2899.0,2908.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/393","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the current climate?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2908.0,2911.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/394","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Right. Well, Oscar Wilde was banned. Um, his books were widely banned, are still widely banned, I believe, in the US.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2911.0,2918.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/395","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"picture during gray is still banned in many places.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2918.0,2924.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/396","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2924.0,2925.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/397","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Um, it's really kind of wild. I mean, it was written… in the 19th century, come on, people. Um, but… Uh, but in addition to the fact that his books were banned, I'm… I was very interested in the fact that after his trials, you know, I tried to put myself in the shoes. I'm writing a teenage character who's living in London at that time and going to school, who's realizing he's attracted to other boys.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2925.0,2943.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/398","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the whole city is talking about his trial, because his trials meant multiple trials, were the talk of the town. I would imagine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2943.0,2951.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/399","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It's all anybody could talk about at that time, especially if you were living there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2951.0,2956.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/400","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so, you know, I was interested in. how does… how do those trials shape the generation that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2956.0,2965.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/401","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"came of age then? How did those trials affect what came after? Because I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2965.0,2971.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/402","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"the trials of Oscar Wilde did have a pretty chilling effect on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2971.0,2975.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/403","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"queer representation after Oscar Weld. I think it created a lot of fear that if you told… because.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2975.0,2980.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/404","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Picture of Dorian Gray was used as evidence in the trial. I mean, in the way that somehow, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2980.0,2985.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/405","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Now, sometimes art is used against artists in court.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2985.0,2988.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/406","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And so I think it had a chilling effect on future art, and it created a lot of stereotypes of gay men that last to this day, because Oscar Wilde.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2988.0,2996.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/407","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"engaged in a lot of predatory behavior and compulsion and stuff that I think has.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=2996.0,3001.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/408","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"become stereotypically associated with us, and so… I was interested in exploring how we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3001.0,3009.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"how we come through those moments of challenges back to… telling our stories again, and… in, you know, there are some readers who are, like, the magic in this book doesn't make sense, and it's not supposed to make sense. The boys become immortal when the original manuscript of Oscar Wilde is a picture of Dorian Gray, which was censored later.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3009.0,3028.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"is burned, and the idea. Which doesn't make any sense, but immortality doesn't make sense. Is that… is that there's magic transmitted from his original handwriting that was censored.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3028.0,3039.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that makes these boys immortal, and it is meant to symbolize.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3039.0,3040.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/412","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3040.0,3042.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/413","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"that, yes, you can ban us in the short term. Yes, you can burn our books in the short term. In the long term, it only makes us more powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3042.0,3050.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oscar Wilde was silenced, he was censored, he was banned, and he was imprisoned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3050.0,3054.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And look at him now. I mean, he's an icon. We still read him. We still talk about him. The people who banned him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3054.0,3061.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"We don't talk about them. They didn't shape culture. So, you know, I am aware of that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3061.0,3067.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I know that there's pain in the short term, but we have to keep… if you study history, you realize the people we remember.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3067.0,3074.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are the people who… fought for a new vision of society.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3074.0,3080.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, um, yeah. And he was very imperfect. I think that's something I talk about in the book, too. He's not… He's not a gay hero because he was some perfect… person. He did pretty awful things, and he brought a lot of it on to himself. He initiated the trial.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3080.0,3094.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"That was his doing. Um, but… But yeah, I think he's a… he's a very fascinating figure.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3094.0,3102.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Where are you going, boy?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3102.0,3103.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Hi, Disco! And I, I, I really… like that point that she had in there, that, um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3103.0,3113.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/423","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"it's the immortality of the writing that persists, and um… And that is what I hope that you take inspiration from. Maybe one of these days, you will be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3113.0,3126.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/424","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"documenting the history of this period of book banning and, uh, find a story around that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3126.0,3130.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/425","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You know, I… I am not the right person, because I'm not, like, a nonfiction writer, but I will say it now, and I've said it on other panels, somebody, somebody who's a scholar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3130.0,3141.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/426","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"should write a book about the moment in time that just preceded the book bans when young adults.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3141.0,3151.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/427","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3151.0,3152.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/428","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"and middle-grade literature was… flooded with stories that had never been told. These diverse stories that had never… really, you're talking about… not just me, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3152.0,3157.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/429","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"just the David Levithan, and oh my god, Samira Ahmed, Angie, I mean, these… Becky Albertall, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3157.0,3163.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/430","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3163.0,3165.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/431","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Books that had never. been fathomed, and then the repression that came after. Like, someone needs to write a nonfiction book or make a documentary. It would be so powerful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3165.0,3177.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/432","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3177.0,3178.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/433","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And… and I will say, just in solidarity with all my young adults and middle grade and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3178.0,3184.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/434","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"authors. James Baldwin is my favorite author of all time now. He's the one who shaped me the most, and who I go back to the most, and he famously said, artists are here to disturb the peace, and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3184.0,3194.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/435","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I do feel within the larger literary community and media landscape that YA and middle grade authors are often not taken seriously, and it's… we're treated as if our books are.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3194.0,3205.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/436","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"are not serious, or that they're easy to write, and they're really not, and if anyone is disturbing the piece the way Baldwin taught us to, it is this group of authors. We are the ones.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3205.0,3215.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/437","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"who are writing the work that is. scaring the repressive society. We are the ones getting banned.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3215.0,3222.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/438","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And I think and wish that society understood it in a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3222.0,3223.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/439","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3223.0,3228.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/440","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"in a nuanced context with more depth than respect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3228.0,3233.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/441","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yeah. Well, they are reacting in an extreme way because they do know the power that you have, the power.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3233.0,3241.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/442","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to, uh, to open minds, the power to teach empathy, to different situations, the power to include.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3241.0,3250.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/443","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, um, for people to discover themselves in your words. And so… You are… you are on the right side, and we hope that you will keep doing that, and that we will continue to support writers like you and your books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3250.0,3268.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/444","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, um, so on that note, I will… Thank you, I will thank lyricists.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3268.0,3275.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/445","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"For making this webinar possible. And for supporting the band book club project.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3275.0,3282.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/446","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And, um, I encourage librarians, if you are looking to diversify your collections, but also.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3282.0,3290.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/447","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"to find, um, books that are… that are… relationship-based, they are historical pieces.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3290.0,3299.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/448","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They explore the nuances of romance and family love as well. Please look for Abdi Nazemian's book.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3299.0,3309.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/449","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"They are all worth adding to your collection. Thank you to our viewers for tuning in and caring about this issue and strengthening our community in action.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3309.0,3321.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/450","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And we look forward to seeing more of your work, Abdi, in the future.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3321.0,3326.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/451","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Thank you, I'm still… I'm still going. There will be more books.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3326.0,3327.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/452","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Both on bookshelves. Yes, keep writing. We will keep reading, we will keep putting them out there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3327.0,3335.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/453","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Hey, pie boy. He's very… someone is about to come, and he really wants to go bark and protects me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3335.0,3338.0"},{"id":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611/transcript/85980/annotation/454","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Good jobOh.He was fantastic","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://lyrasis.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2355/collection_resources/162828/file/296611#t=3338.0,3346.0"}]}]}]}